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Can a Mimic (container form) actually hold loot?


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I want my players to be able to kill a Mimic and get the loot from the Mimic's corpse.



The Mimic has an acidic bite, and is a creature, not actually a container.



Can a Mimic store items?










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    I want my players to be able to kill a Mimic and get the loot from the Mimic's corpse.



    The Mimic has an acidic bite, and is a creature, not actually a container.



    Can a Mimic store items?










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      I want my players to be able to kill a Mimic and get the loot from the Mimic's corpse.



      The Mimic has an acidic bite, and is a creature, not actually a container.



      Can a Mimic store items?










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      I want my players to be able to kill a Mimic and get the loot from the Mimic's corpse.



      The Mimic has an acidic bite, and is a creature, not actually a container.



      Can a Mimic store items?







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          Probably not



          Because the mimic has the always on property of Adhesive when in object form:




          The mimic adheres to anything that touches it.




          It seems unlikely that someone was able to get something inside of it. Once it moves, it's no longer the object and is instead it's true form. And I'd saying that it opening is it moving (because it's moving.)



          However, should whomever is using it want to store something inside it (cruel!), I'm not sure that would be totally against the rules.



          Storing items inside creatures



          I guess technically it can 'contain' the item - but the players are going to have to 'dig' for it.



          The mimic is only an object when it's using it's shapechanger ability (my emphasis):




          The mimic can use its action to polymorph into an object or back into its true, amorphous form. Its statistics are the same in each form. Any equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed. It reverts to its true form if it dies.




          If they've killed it, then it's no longer acting as the 'container', but I don't see why it can't still have something inside it (heck, any monster could have items implanted, I guess.)






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            It's fairly common in published adventures for e.g. a roper to have loot in its gizzard. It occurs multiple times in Tales from the Yawning Portal.



            I think the monster's manual even suggests treasure winds up there.



            There's no reason your mimic couldn't have something similar, though I suppose it's not really explicitly spelled out as a common mimic characteristic.






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              Purely out of morbid curiosity - can you a cite a published adventure that has that? And do players have to specifically say they're searching inside it?
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              @Rubiksmoose I didn't think I we were allowed to copy and paste lore out of the copyrighted sections of the books. The roper lore would qualify.
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              @NautArch It happens a few times in Tales from the Yawning Portal. Players do have to explicitly state that they're searching the gizzard.
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              @kylesexton Actually, we are allowed to do so. If you post sections of sources (not like the whole thing obviously) here that is well within the norm here and is perfectly fine. In fact, doing so is encouraged. Again not the whole thing, but just whatever part is needed to make your point.
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            As a container, no.



            When the mimic dies, it reverts into it's true shape, which is not a container which would normally contain loot. It could have eaten something like an enchanted ring by mistake or something while feasting on the poor adventurer before you, but otherwise, I think it would be on the outside of the Mimic due to its Adhesive property. Now, other monsters do have the ability to have loot inside them, as @kyle sexton has said, like the Roper, which is actually stated in the MM




            A roper can digest anything it eats with the
            exception of platinum, gemstones, and magic
            items, which can sometimes be retrieved from the
            creature's gizzard after death. A roper's digestive juices
            are also valuable, fetching a high price from alchemists
            who use them as a solvent.




            Then you have the Purple Worm which eats through the earth, and can have gems and the like inside its stomach, which is also referenced in the MM.




            When a purple worm burrows
            through the ground, it consumes earth and rock, which
            it breaks down and constantly excretes. Precious metals
            and gems can thus be found within the bodies of purple
            worms, which are targeted by particularly brave and
            foolhardy treasure hunters.




            So... For the mimic, I would think not, but as DM, you could rule it so. Other monsters consume things that they cannot digest and you can loot them for it, so why not the mimic?






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              Probably not



              Because the mimic has the always on property of Adhesive when in object form:




              The mimic adheres to anything that touches it.




              It seems unlikely that someone was able to get something inside of it. Once it moves, it's no longer the object and is instead it's true form. And I'd saying that it opening is it moving (because it's moving.)



              However, should whomever is using it want to store something inside it (cruel!), I'm not sure that would be totally against the rules.



              Storing items inside creatures



              I guess technically it can 'contain' the item - but the players are going to have to 'dig' for it.



              The mimic is only an object when it's using it's shapechanger ability (my emphasis):




              The mimic can use its action to polymorph into an object or back into its true, amorphous form. Its statistics are the same in each form. Any equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed. It reverts to its true form if it dies.




              If they've killed it, then it's no longer acting as the 'container', but I don't see why it can't still have something inside it (heck, any monster could have items implanted, I guess.)






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                Probably not



                Because the mimic has the always on property of Adhesive when in object form:




                The mimic adheres to anything that touches it.




                It seems unlikely that someone was able to get something inside of it. Once it moves, it's no longer the object and is instead it's true form. And I'd saying that it opening is it moving (because it's moving.)



                However, should whomever is using it want to store something inside it (cruel!), I'm not sure that would be totally against the rules.



                Storing items inside creatures



                I guess technically it can 'contain' the item - but the players are going to have to 'dig' for it.



                The mimic is only an object when it's using it's shapechanger ability (my emphasis):




                The mimic can use its action to polymorph into an object or back into its true, amorphous form. Its statistics are the same in each form. Any equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed. It reverts to its true form if it dies.




                If they've killed it, then it's no longer acting as the 'container', but I don't see why it can't still have something inside it (heck, any monster could have items implanted, I guess.)






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                  Probably not



                  Because the mimic has the always on property of Adhesive when in object form:




                  The mimic adheres to anything that touches it.




                  It seems unlikely that someone was able to get something inside of it. Once it moves, it's no longer the object and is instead it's true form. And I'd saying that it opening is it moving (because it's moving.)



                  However, should whomever is using it want to store something inside it (cruel!), I'm not sure that would be totally against the rules.



                  Storing items inside creatures



                  I guess technically it can 'contain' the item - but the players are going to have to 'dig' for it.



                  The mimic is only an object when it's using it's shapechanger ability (my emphasis):




                  The mimic can use its action to polymorph into an object or back into its true, amorphous form. Its statistics are the same in each form. Any equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed. It reverts to its true form if it dies.




                  If they've killed it, then it's no longer acting as the 'container', but I don't see why it can't still have something inside it (heck, any monster could have items implanted, I guess.)






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                  Probably not



                  Because the mimic has the always on property of Adhesive when in object form:




                  The mimic adheres to anything that touches it.




                  It seems unlikely that someone was able to get something inside of it. Once it moves, it's no longer the object and is instead it's true form. And I'd saying that it opening is it moving (because it's moving.)



                  However, should whomever is using it want to store something inside it (cruel!), I'm not sure that would be totally against the rules.



                  Storing items inside creatures



                  I guess technically it can 'contain' the item - but the players are going to have to 'dig' for it.



                  The mimic is only an object when it's using it's shapechanger ability (my emphasis):




                  The mimic can use its action to polymorph into an object or back into its true, amorphous form. Its statistics are the same in each form. Any equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed. It reverts to its true form if it dies.




                  If they've killed it, then it's no longer acting as the 'container', but I don't see why it can't still have something inside it (heck, any monster could have items implanted, I guess.)







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                      It's fairly common in published adventures for e.g. a roper to have loot in its gizzard. It occurs multiple times in Tales from the Yawning Portal.



                      I think the monster's manual even suggests treasure winds up there.



                      There's no reason your mimic couldn't have something similar, though I suppose it's not really explicitly spelled out as a common mimic characteristic.






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                        Purely out of morbid curiosity - can you a cite a published adventure that has that? And do players have to specifically say they're searching inside it?
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                        53 mins ago






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                        "common in published adventures", "the monster's manual even suggests" your answer would be much more convincing if you found examples and provided some or citations to back up these claims. It is important that answers are backed up properly as we require on this site.
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                        @Rubiksmoose I didn't think I we were allowed to copy and paste lore out of the copyrighted sections of the books. The roper lore would qualify.
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                        @NautArch It happens a few times in Tales from the Yawning Portal. Players do have to explicitly state that they're searching the gizzard.
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                        – kyle sexton
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                        @kylesexton Actually, we are allowed to do so. If you post sections of sources (not like the whole thing obviously) here that is well within the norm here and is perfectly fine. In fact, doing so is encouraged. Again not the whole thing, but just whatever part is needed to make your point.
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                      It's fairly common in published adventures for e.g. a roper to have loot in its gizzard. It occurs multiple times in Tales from the Yawning Portal.



                      I think the monster's manual even suggests treasure winds up there.



                      There's no reason your mimic couldn't have something similar, though I suppose it's not really explicitly spelled out as a common mimic characteristic.






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                      • $begingroup$
                        Purely out of morbid curiosity - can you a cite a published adventure that has that? And do players have to specifically say they're searching inside it?
                        $endgroup$
                        – NautArch
                        53 mins ago






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                        "common in published adventures", "the monster's manual even suggests" your answer would be much more convincing if you found examples and provided some or citations to back up these claims. It is important that answers are backed up properly as we require on this site.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rubiksmoose
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                        @Rubiksmoose I didn't think I we were allowed to copy and paste lore out of the copyrighted sections of the books. The roper lore would qualify.
                        $endgroup$
                        – kyle sexton
                        21 mins ago






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                        @NautArch It happens a few times in Tales from the Yawning Portal. Players do have to explicitly state that they're searching the gizzard.
                        $endgroup$
                        – kyle sexton
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                        @kylesexton Actually, we are allowed to do so. If you post sections of sources (not like the whole thing obviously) here that is well within the norm here and is perfectly fine. In fact, doing so is encouraged. Again not the whole thing, but just whatever part is needed to make your point.
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                        – Rubiksmoose
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                      It's fairly common in published adventures for e.g. a roper to have loot in its gizzard. It occurs multiple times in Tales from the Yawning Portal.



                      I think the monster's manual even suggests treasure winds up there.



                      There's no reason your mimic couldn't have something similar, though I suppose it's not really explicitly spelled out as a common mimic characteristic.






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                      It's fairly common in published adventures for e.g. a roper to have loot in its gizzard. It occurs multiple times in Tales from the Yawning Portal.



                      I think the monster's manual even suggests treasure winds up there.



                      There's no reason your mimic couldn't have something similar, though I suppose it's not really explicitly spelled out as a common mimic characteristic.







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                        Purely out of morbid curiosity - can you a cite a published adventure that has that? And do players have to specifically say they're searching inside it?
                        $endgroup$
                        – NautArch
                        53 mins ago






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                        "common in published adventures", "the monster's manual even suggests" your answer would be much more convincing if you found examples and provided some or citations to back up these claims. It is important that answers are backed up properly as we require on this site.
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                        @Rubiksmoose I didn't think I we were allowed to copy and paste lore out of the copyrighted sections of the books. The roper lore would qualify.
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                        – kyle sexton
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                        @NautArch It happens a few times in Tales from the Yawning Portal. Players do have to explicitly state that they're searching the gizzard.
                        $endgroup$
                        – kyle sexton
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                      • $begingroup$
                        @kylesexton Actually, we are allowed to do so. If you post sections of sources (not like the whole thing obviously) here that is well within the norm here and is perfectly fine. In fact, doing so is encouraged. Again not the whole thing, but just whatever part is needed to make your point.
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                      • $begingroup$
                        Purely out of morbid curiosity - can you a cite a published adventure that has that? And do players have to specifically say they're searching inside it?
                        $endgroup$
                        – NautArch
                        53 mins ago






                      • 1




                        $begingroup$
                        "common in published adventures", "the monster's manual even suggests" your answer would be much more convincing if you found examples and provided some or citations to back up these claims. It is important that answers are backed up properly as we require on this site.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rubiksmoose
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                      • $begingroup$
                        @Rubiksmoose I didn't think I we were allowed to copy and paste lore out of the copyrighted sections of the books. The roper lore would qualify.
                        $endgroup$
                        – kyle sexton
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                        @NautArch It happens a few times in Tales from the Yawning Portal. Players do have to explicitly state that they're searching the gizzard.
                        $endgroup$
                        – kyle sexton
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                      • $begingroup$
                        @kylesexton Actually, we are allowed to do so. If you post sections of sources (not like the whole thing obviously) here that is well within the norm here and is perfectly fine. In fact, doing so is encouraged. Again not the whole thing, but just whatever part is needed to make your point.
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                        – Rubiksmoose
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                      $begingroup$
                      Purely out of morbid curiosity - can you a cite a published adventure that has that? And do players have to specifically say they're searching inside it?
                      $endgroup$
                      – NautArch
                      53 mins ago




                      $begingroup$
                      Purely out of morbid curiosity - can you a cite a published adventure that has that? And do players have to specifically say they're searching inside it?
                      $endgroup$
                      – NautArch
                      53 mins ago




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                      "common in published adventures", "the monster's manual even suggests" your answer would be much more convincing if you found examples and provided some or citations to back up these claims. It is important that answers are backed up properly as we require on this site.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Rubiksmoose
                      52 mins ago






                      $begingroup$
                      "common in published adventures", "the monster's manual even suggests" your answer would be much more convincing if you found examples and provided some or citations to back up these claims. It is important that answers are backed up properly as we require on this site.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Rubiksmoose
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                      $begingroup$
                      @Rubiksmoose I didn't think I we were allowed to copy and paste lore out of the copyrighted sections of the books. The roper lore would qualify.
                      $endgroup$
                      – kyle sexton
                      21 mins ago




                      $begingroup$
                      @Rubiksmoose I didn't think I we were allowed to copy and paste lore out of the copyrighted sections of the books. The roper lore would qualify.
                      $endgroup$
                      – kyle sexton
                      21 mins ago




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                      @NautArch It happens a few times in Tales from the Yawning Portal. Players do have to explicitly state that they're searching the gizzard.
                      $endgroup$
                      – kyle sexton
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                      $begingroup$
                      @NautArch It happens a few times in Tales from the Yawning Portal. Players do have to explicitly state that they're searching the gizzard.
                      $endgroup$
                      – kyle sexton
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                      $begingroup$
                      @kylesexton Actually, we are allowed to do so. If you post sections of sources (not like the whole thing obviously) here that is well within the norm here and is perfectly fine. In fact, doing so is encouraged. Again not the whole thing, but just whatever part is needed to make your point.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Rubiksmoose
                      19 mins ago






                      $begingroup$
                      @kylesexton Actually, we are allowed to do so. If you post sections of sources (not like the whole thing obviously) here that is well within the norm here and is perfectly fine. In fact, doing so is encouraged. Again not the whole thing, but just whatever part is needed to make your point.
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                      As a container, no.



                      When the mimic dies, it reverts into it's true shape, which is not a container which would normally contain loot. It could have eaten something like an enchanted ring by mistake or something while feasting on the poor adventurer before you, but otherwise, I think it would be on the outside of the Mimic due to its Adhesive property. Now, other monsters do have the ability to have loot inside them, as @kyle sexton has said, like the Roper, which is actually stated in the MM




                      A roper can digest anything it eats with the
                      exception of platinum, gemstones, and magic
                      items, which can sometimes be retrieved from the
                      creature's gizzard after death. A roper's digestive juices
                      are also valuable, fetching a high price from alchemists
                      who use them as a solvent.




                      Then you have the Purple Worm which eats through the earth, and can have gems and the like inside its stomach, which is also referenced in the MM.




                      When a purple worm burrows
                      through the ground, it consumes earth and rock, which
                      it breaks down and constantly excretes. Precious metals
                      and gems can thus be found within the bodies of purple
                      worms, which are targeted by particularly brave and
                      foolhardy treasure hunters.




                      So... For the mimic, I would think not, but as DM, you could rule it so. Other monsters consume things that they cannot digest and you can loot them for it, so why not the mimic?






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                        As a container, no.



                        When the mimic dies, it reverts into it's true shape, which is not a container which would normally contain loot. It could have eaten something like an enchanted ring by mistake or something while feasting on the poor adventurer before you, but otherwise, I think it would be on the outside of the Mimic due to its Adhesive property. Now, other monsters do have the ability to have loot inside them, as @kyle sexton has said, like the Roper, which is actually stated in the MM




                        A roper can digest anything it eats with the
                        exception of platinum, gemstones, and magic
                        items, which can sometimes be retrieved from the
                        creature's gizzard after death. A roper's digestive juices
                        are also valuable, fetching a high price from alchemists
                        who use them as a solvent.




                        Then you have the Purple Worm which eats through the earth, and can have gems and the like inside its stomach, which is also referenced in the MM.




                        When a purple worm burrows
                        through the ground, it consumes earth and rock, which
                        it breaks down and constantly excretes. Precious metals
                        and gems can thus be found within the bodies of purple
                        worms, which are targeted by particularly brave and
                        foolhardy treasure hunters.




                        So... For the mimic, I would think not, but as DM, you could rule it so. Other monsters consume things that they cannot digest and you can loot them for it, so why not the mimic?






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                          As a container, no.



                          When the mimic dies, it reverts into it's true shape, which is not a container which would normally contain loot. It could have eaten something like an enchanted ring by mistake or something while feasting on the poor adventurer before you, but otherwise, I think it would be on the outside of the Mimic due to its Adhesive property. Now, other monsters do have the ability to have loot inside them, as @kyle sexton has said, like the Roper, which is actually stated in the MM




                          A roper can digest anything it eats with the
                          exception of platinum, gemstones, and magic
                          items, which can sometimes be retrieved from the
                          creature's gizzard after death. A roper's digestive juices
                          are also valuable, fetching a high price from alchemists
                          who use them as a solvent.




                          Then you have the Purple Worm which eats through the earth, and can have gems and the like inside its stomach, which is also referenced in the MM.




                          When a purple worm burrows
                          through the ground, it consumes earth and rock, which
                          it breaks down and constantly excretes. Precious metals
                          and gems can thus be found within the bodies of purple
                          worms, which are targeted by particularly brave and
                          foolhardy treasure hunters.




                          So... For the mimic, I would think not, but as DM, you could rule it so. Other monsters consume things that they cannot digest and you can loot them for it, so why not the mimic?






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                          $endgroup$



                          As a container, no.



                          When the mimic dies, it reverts into it's true shape, which is not a container which would normally contain loot. It could have eaten something like an enchanted ring by mistake or something while feasting on the poor adventurer before you, but otherwise, I think it would be on the outside of the Mimic due to its Adhesive property. Now, other monsters do have the ability to have loot inside them, as @kyle sexton has said, like the Roper, which is actually stated in the MM




                          A roper can digest anything it eats with the
                          exception of platinum, gemstones, and magic
                          items, which can sometimes be retrieved from the
                          creature's gizzard after death. A roper's digestive juices
                          are also valuable, fetching a high price from alchemists
                          who use them as a solvent.




                          Then you have the Purple Worm which eats through the earth, and can have gems and the like inside its stomach, which is also referenced in the MM.




                          When a purple worm burrows
                          through the ground, it consumes earth and rock, which
                          it breaks down and constantly excretes. Precious metals
                          and gems can thus be found within the bodies of purple
                          worms, which are targeted by particularly brave and
                          foolhardy treasure hunters.




                          So... For the mimic, I would think not, but as DM, you could rule it so. Other monsters consume things that they cannot digest and you can loot them for it, so why not the mimic?







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