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I have a simple gaussian integral: $int^{infty}_{-infty}dx:e^{ialpha x^2}$.
If $alpha in mathbb{R}$, then:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad alpha <0
$$
Now if $alpha in mathbb{C}$ then we obtain the same answer but with different conditions:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad Im(alpha)>0
$$
These can be combined into a simple answer with an OR statement:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad Im(alpha)=0 , & , Re(alpha) <0 quad|| quad Im(alpha)>0
$$
When I I ask Mathematica to solve this for me
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -∞, ∞}]
Mathematica returns only one of these cases:
ConditionalExpression[Sqrt[π]/Sqrt[-I a], Im[a] > 0]
I have tried specifying $Im(alpha)geq 0$ in the Assumptions but Mathematica disregards this and gives the same result. It can of course find the answer for $alpha in mathbb{R}$ but it cannot seem to give a fully general answer where both conditions are present.
calculus-and-analysis assumptions logic
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I have a simple gaussian integral: $int^{infty}_{-infty}dx:e^{ialpha x^2}$.
If $alpha in mathbb{R}$, then:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad alpha <0
$$
Now if $alpha in mathbb{C}$ then we obtain the same answer but with different conditions:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad Im(alpha)>0
$$
These can be combined into a simple answer with an OR statement:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad Im(alpha)=0 , & , Re(alpha) <0 quad|| quad Im(alpha)>0
$$
When I I ask Mathematica to solve this for me
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -∞, ∞}]
Mathematica returns only one of these cases:
ConditionalExpression[Sqrt[π]/Sqrt[-I a], Im[a] > 0]
I have tried specifying $Im(alpha)geq 0$ in the Assumptions but Mathematica disregards this and gives the same result. It can of course find the answer for $alpha in mathbb{R}$ but it cannot seem to give a fully general answer where both conditions are present.
calculus-and-analysis assumptions logic
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add a comment |
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I have a simple gaussian integral: $int^{infty}_{-infty}dx:e^{ialpha x^2}$.
If $alpha in mathbb{R}$, then:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad alpha <0
$$
Now if $alpha in mathbb{C}$ then we obtain the same answer but with different conditions:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad Im(alpha)>0
$$
These can be combined into a simple answer with an OR statement:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad Im(alpha)=0 , & , Re(alpha) <0 quad|| quad Im(alpha)>0
$$
When I I ask Mathematica to solve this for me
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -∞, ∞}]
Mathematica returns only one of these cases:
ConditionalExpression[Sqrt[π]/Sqrt[-I a], Im[a] > 0]
I have tried specifying $Im(alpha)geq 0$ in the Assumptions but Mathematica disregards this and gives the same result. It can of course find the answer for $alpha in mathbb{R}$ but it cannot seem to give a fully general answer where both conditions are present.
calculus-and-analysis assumptions logic
$endgroup$
I have a simple gaussian integral: $int^{infty}_{-infty}dx:e^{ialpha x^2}$.
If $alpha in mathbb{R}$, then:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad alpha <0
$$
Now if $alpha in mathbb{C}$ then we obtain the same answer but with different conditions:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad Im(alpha)>0
$$
These can be combined into a simple answer with an OR statement:
$$
int^infty_{-infty} dx; e^{i , alpha x^2} = sqrt{frac pi {-i alpha}} qquad qquad Im(alpha)=0 , & , Re(alpha) <0 quad|| quad Im(alpha)>0
$$
When I I ask Mathematica to solve this for me
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -∞, ∞}]
Mathematica returns only one of these cases:
ConditionalExpression[Sqrt[π]/Sqrt[-I a], Im[a] > 0]
I have tried specifying $Im(alpha)geq 0$ in the Assumptions but Mathematica disregards this and gives the same result. It can of course find the answer for $alpha in mathbb{R}$ but it cannot seem to give a fully general answer where both conditions are present.
calculus-and-analysis assumptions logic
calculus-and-analysis assumptions logic
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By default, Mathematica assumes all symbols are complex valued, so this is what you get if you don't specify. You can see all the variations by making assumptions:
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -[Infinity], [Infinity]}, Assumptions -> #]
& /@ {a [Element] Complexes, a [Element] Reals, Im[a] == 0,
Im[a] < 0, Im[a] > 0, Re[a] == 0, Im[a] >= 0, a == 0, a < 0}
One of these doesn't converge and another is equal to infinity, but they do give the full range of possibilities.
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If $alpha$ is complex, then yes, The imaginary part of alpha should be strictly greater than zero. If $alpha$ is real, does it converge? If you complete the contour in the complex plane, with a semicircle, and replace $x$ by $z=x+ i y$, I do not see the integral converging along the semicircle.
$mathbf{UPDATE:}$
Okay, I looked the integral up in Gradshteyn and Ryzhik, Table of Integrals, Series, and Products, 6$^textrm{th}$ edition, p. 333. Looks like the integral for $alpha$ real converges for $alpha<0$ but with limits zero to infinity.
$displaystyle int_0^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = frac{1}{2} sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
We can infer from this
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
Replacing $lambda$ by $-lambda$ we get the complex conjugate:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{-lambda}} e^{ipi/4}, quad (lambda<0)$.
Combining these:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{ - (textrm{sign }{lambda}) ipi/4}, quad (lambda ne 0, lambda in Re)$.
This is consistent with what Mathematica (Version 11.2.0.0, Mac OS X) gives:
Assuming[Element[a,Reals],Integrate[Exp[I a x^2],{x,-Infinity,Infinity}]
returning
Sqrt[Pi]/2 (1+ I Sign[a])/Sqrt[Abs[a]]
If anybody has an idea how to compute this integral with contour integration (or otherwise) from first principals, that would be interesting!
Also, we still haven't answered why Mathematica assumes that $alpha$ is not real if $alpha in mathbb{C}$!
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1
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Although you may be correct, I am not sure that this answers the OP's question. They were asking why they can't obtain a more general conditional expression fromIntegrate
that takes into consideration both possibilities, i.e. that $alpha$ is real or complex.
$endgroup$
– MarcoB
3 hours ago
1
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I don't think Mathematica gave the proper response $alpha<0$. If it converges for $alpha<0$ why not $alpha>0$. and does it converge?
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– mjw
3 hours ago
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I have assumed $x in mathbb{R}$ so convergence in that sense has not been accounted for.
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– OldTomMorris
2 hours ago
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By default, Mathematica assumes all symbols are complex valued, so this is what you get if you don't specify. You can see all the variations by making assumptions:
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -[Infinity], [Infinity]}, Assumptions -> #]
& /@ {a [Element] Complexes, a [Element] Reals, Im[a] == 0,
Im[a] < 0, Im[a] > 0, Re[a] == 0, Im[a] >= 0, a == 0, a < 0}
One of these doesn't converge and another is equal to infinity, but they do give the full range of possibilities.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
By default, Mathematica assumes all symbols are complex valued, so this is what you get if you don't specify. You can see all the variations by making assumptions:
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -[Infinity], [Infinity]}, Assumptions -> #]
& /@ {a [Element] Complexes, a [Element] Reals, Im[a] == 0,
Im[a] < 0, Im[a] > 0, Re[a] == 0, Im[a] >= 0, a == 0, a < 0}
One of these doesn't converge and another is equal to infinity, but they do give the full range of possibilities.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
By default, Mathematica assumes all symbols are complex valued, so this is what you get if you don't specify. You can see all the variations by making assumptions:
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -[Infinity], [Infinity]}, Assumptions -> #]
& /@ {a [Element] Complexes, a [Element] Reals, Im[a] == 0,
Im[a] < 0, Im[a] > 0, Re[a] == 0, Im[a] >= 0, a == 0, a < 0}
One of these doesn't converge and another is equal to infinity, but they do give the full range of possibilities.
$endgroup$
By default, Mathematica assumes all symbols are complex valued, so this is what you get if you don't specify. You can see all the variations by making assumptions:
Integrate[E^(I x^2 a), {x, -[Infinity], [Infinity]}, Assumptions -> #]
& /@ {a [Element] Complexes, a [Element] Reals, Im[a] == 0,
Im[a] < 0, Im[a] > 0, Re[a] == 0, Im[a] >= 0, a == 0, a < 0}
One of these doesn't converge and another is equal to infinity, but they do give the full range of possibilities.
answered 2 hours ago
bill sbill s
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If $alpha$ is complex, then yes, The imaginary part of alpha should be strictly greater than zero. If $alpha$ is real, does it converge? If you complete the contour in the complex plane, with a semicircle, and replace $x$ by $z=x+ i y$, I do not see the integral converging along the semicircle.
$mathbf{UPDATE:}$
Okay, I looked the integral up in Gradshteyn and Ryzhik, Table of Integrals, Series, and Products, 6$^textrm{th}$ edition, p. 333. Looks like the integral for $alpha$ real converges for $alpha<0$ but with limits zero to infinity.
$displaystyle int_0^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = frac{1}{2} sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
We can infer from this
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
Replacing $lambda$ by $-lambda$ we get the complex conjugate:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{-lambda}} e^{ipi/4}, quad (lambda<0)$.
Combining these:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{ - (textrm{sign }{lambda}) ipi/4}, quad (lambda ne 0, lambda in Re)$.
This is consistent with what Mathematica (Version 11.2.0.0, Mac OS X) gives:
Assuming[Element[a,Reals],Integrate[Exp[I a x^2],{x,-Infinity,Infinity}]
returning
Sqrt[Pi]/2 (1+ I Sign[a])/Sqrt[Abs[a]]
If anybody has an idea how to compute this integral with contour integration (or otherwise) from first principals, that would be interesting!
Also, we still haven't answered why Mathematica assumes that $alpha$ is not real if $alpha in mathbb{C}$!
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Although you may be correct, I am not sure that this answers the OP's question. They were asking why they can't obtain a more general conditional expression fromIntegrate
that takes into consideration both possibilities, i.e. that $alpha$ is real or complex.
$endgroup$
– MarcoB
3 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
I don't think Mathematica gave the proper response $alpha<0$. If it converges for $alpha<0$ why not $alpha>0$. and does it converge?
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– mjw
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
I have assumed $x in mathbb{R}$ so convergence in that sense has not been accounted for.
$endgroup$
– OldTomMorris
2 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If $alpha$ is complex, then yes, The imaginary part of alpha should be strictly greater than zero. If $alpha$ is real, does it converge? If you complete the contour in the complex plane, with a semicircle, and replace $x$ by $z=x+ i y$, I do not see the integral converging along the semicircle.
$mathbf{UPDATE:}$
Okay, I looked the integral up in Gradshteyn and Ryzhik, Table of Integrals, Series, and Products, 6$^textrm{th}$ edition, p. 333. Looks like the integral for $alpha$ real converges for $alpha<0$ but with limits zero to infinity.
$displaystyle int_0^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = frac{1}{2} sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
We can infer from this
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
Replacing $lambda$ by $-lambda$ we get the complex conjugate:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{-lambda}} e^{ipi/4}, quad (lambda<0)$.
Combining these:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{ - (textrm{sign }{lambda}) ipi/4}, quad (lambda ne 0, lambda in Re)$.
This is consistent with what Mathematica (Version 11.2.0.0, Mac OS X) gives:
Assuming[Element[a,Reals],Integrate[Exp[I a x^2],{x,-Infinity,Infinity}]
returning
Sqrt[Pi]/2 (1+ I Sign[a])/Sqrt[Abs[a]]
If anybody has an idea how to compute this integral with contour integration (or otherwise) from first principals, that would be interesting!
Also, we still haven't answered why Mathematica assumes that $alpha$ is not real if $alpha in mathbb{C}$!
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Although you may be correct, I am not sure that this answers the OP's question. They were asking why they can't obtain a more general conditional expression fromIntegrate
that takes into consideration both possibilities, i.e. that $alpha$ is real or complex.
$endgroup$
– MarcoB
3 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
I don't think Mathematica gave the proper response $alpha<0$. If it converges for $alpha<0$ why not $alpha>0$. and does it converge?
$endgroup$
– mjw
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
I have assumed $x in mathbb{R}$ so convergence in that sense has not been accounted for.
$endgroup$
– OldTomMorris
2 hours ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If $alpha$ is complex, then yes, The imaginary part of alpha should be strictly greater than zero. If $alpha$ is real, does it converge? If you complete the contour in the complex plane, with a semicircle, and replace $x$ by $z=x+ i y$, I do not see the integral converging along the semicircle.
$mathbf{UPDATE:}$
Okay, I looked the integral up in Gradshteyn and Ryzhik, Table of Integrals, Series, and Products, 6$^textrm{th}$ edition, p. 333. Looks like the integral for $alpha$ real converges for $alpha<0$ but with limits zero to infinity.
$displaystyle int_0^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = frac{1}{2} sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
We can infer from this
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
Replacing $lambda$ by $-lambda$ we get the complex conjugate:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{-lambda}} e^{ipi/4}, quad (lambda<0)$.
Combining these:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{ - (textrm{sign }{lambda}) ipi/4}, quad (lambda ne 0, lambda in Re)$.
This is consistent with what Mathematica (Version 11.2.0.0, Mac OS X) gives:
Assuming[Element[a,Reals],Integrate[Exp[I a x^2],{x,-Infinity,Infinity}]
returning
Sqrt[Pi]/2 (1+ I Sign[a])/Sqrt[Abs[a]]
If anybody has an idea how to compute this integral with contour integration (or otherwise) from first principals, that would be interesting!
Also, we still haven't answered why Mathematica assumes that $alpha$ is not real if $alpha in mathbb{C}$!
$endgroup$
If $alpha$ is complex, then yes, The imaginary part of alpha should be strictly greater than zero. If $alpha$ is real, does it converge? If you complete the contour in the complex plane, with a semicircle, and replace $x$ by $z=x+ i y$, I do not see the integral converging along the semicircle.
$mathbf{UPDATE:}$
Okay, I looked the integral up in Gradshteyn and Ryzhik, Table of Integrals, Series, and Products, 6$^textrm{th}$ edition, p. 333. Looks like the integral for $alpha$ real converges for $alpha<0$ but with limits zero to infinity.
$displaystyle int_0^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = frac{1}{2} sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
We can infer from this
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{-ipi/4}, quad (lambda>0)$.
Replacing $lambda$ by $-lambda$ we get the complex conjugate:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{-lambda}} e^{ipi/4}, quad (lambda<0)$.
Combining these:
$displaystyle int_{-infty}^infty e^{-ilambda x^2} = sqrt{frac{pi}{lambda}} e^{ - (textrm{sign }{lambda}) ipi/4}, quad (lambda ne 0, lambda in Re)$.
This is consistent with what Mathematica (Version 11.2.0.0, Mac OS X) gives:
Assuming[Element[a,Reals],Integrate[Exp[I a x^2],{x,-Infinity,Infinity}]
returning
Sqrt[Pi]/2 (1+ I Sign[a])/Sqrt[Abs[a]]
If anybody has an idea how to compute this integral with contour integration (or otherwise) from first principals, that would be interesting!
Also, we still haven't answered why Mathematica assumes that $alpha$ is not real if $alpha in mathbb{C}$!
edited 34 mins ago
answered 3 hours ago
mjwmjw
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Although you may be correct, I am not sure that this answers the OP's question. They were asking why they can't obtain a more general conditional expression fromIntegrate
that takes into consideration both possibilities, i.e. that $alpha$ is real or complex.
$endgroup$
– MarcoB
3 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
I don't think Mathematica gave the proper response $alpha<0$. If it converges for $alpha<0$ why not $alpha>0$. and does it converge?
$endgroup$
– mjw
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
I have assumed $x in mathbb{R}$ so convergence in that sense has not been accounted for.
$endgroup$
– OldTomMorris
2 hours ago
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
Although you may be correct, I am not sure that this answers the OP's question. They were asking why they can't obtain a more general conditional expression fromIntegrate
that takes into consideration both possibilities, i.e. that $alpha$ is real or complex.
$endgroup$
– MarcoB
3 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
I don't think Mathematica gave the proper response $alpha<0$. If it converges for $alpha<0$ why not $alpha>0$. and does it converge?
$endgroup$
– mjw
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
I have assumed $x in mathbb{R}$ so convergence in that sense has not been accounted for.
$endgroup$
– OldTomMorris
2 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
Although you may be correct, I am not sure that this answers the OP's question. They were asking why they can't obtain a more general conditional expression from
Integrate
that takes into consideration both possibilities, i.e. that $alpha$ is real or complex.$endgroup$
– MarcoB
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
Although you may be correct, I am not sure that this answers the OP's question. They were asking why they can't obtain a more general conditional expression from
Integrate
that takes into consideration both possibilities, i.e. that $alpha$ is real or complex.$endgroup$
– MarcoB
3 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
I don't think Mathematica gave the proper response $alpha<0$. If it converges for $alpha<0$ why not $alpha>0$. and does it converge?
$endgroup$
– mjw
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
I don't think Mathematica gave the proper response $alpha<0$. If it converges for $alpha<0$ why not $alpha>0$. and does it converge?
$endgroup$
– mjw
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
I have assumed $x in mathbb{R}$ so convergence in that sense has not been accounted for.
$endgroup$
– OldTomMorris
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
I have assumed $x in mathbb{R}$ so convergence in that sense has not been accounted for.
$endgroup$
– OldTomMorris
2 hours ago
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