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Why are samba client and NFS client used differently?

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Can you compare why samba client and NFS client are used differently?

For example, Why do I have to mount a shared directory on a NFS client side, while I don't have to for samba client side?

In pcmanfm, why can I just type smb://192.168.1.198 on the address bar of file manager, and connect to samba server, while I can't do similarly to access a NFS shared directory, or how can I?

Thanks.

samba nfs lubuntu

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Can you compare why samba client and NFS client are used differently?

For example, Why do I have to mount a shared directory on a NFS client side, while I don't have to for samba client side?

In pcmanfm, why can I just type smb://192.168.1.198 on the address bar of file manager, and connect to samba server, while I can't do similarly to access a NFS shared directory, or how can I?

Thanks.

samba nfs lubuntu

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Can you compare why samba client and NFS client are used differently?

For example, Why do I have to mount a shared directory on a NFS client side, while I don't have to for samba client side?

In pcmanfm, why can I just type smb://192.168.1.198 on the address bar of file manager, and connect to samba server, while I can't do similarly to access a NFS shared directory, or how can I?

Thanks.

samba nfs lubuntu

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pcmanfm uses gvfs, a GNOME Virtual FileSystem. It has SMB support in the gvfs-backends package, which depends on libsmbclient and suggests samba-common.

GVFS requires D-Bus and/or GIO module support for programs to use it, or a gvfs-fuse package that uses FUSE to allow mounting GVFS-accessible filesystems to be accessible by generic programs.

Also, a NFS server and client will trust each other on a much deeper level than a SMB server and client, if the classic NFS sec=sys security model is used, and so mounting a NFS filesystem must require administrative access. (Think of what you could do as a regular user if you could freely mount a filesystem containing setuid binaries of your choice from a server specified by you. The answer is "anything".) That is why implementing a user-accessible nfs:// protocol would not be trivial.

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  Thanks. (1) How can I access a NFS shared irectory in pcmanfm, maybe similarly to a Samba shared directory? (2) " a NFS server and client will trust each other on a much deeper level than a SMB server and client". But I configured NFS server by /share 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check) by following linuxconfig.org/…, It turns out that there is no explicit authentication from a client side (another computer in the same local network). How can I configure the NFS server so that it can securely share a directory?
  
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Tim, you ask more than one question. But let me answer one (which I found interesting)

You do not need to mount the NFS share. You can access it on this way:

cd /net/<NFS server IP or hostname/path/to/shared/dir

and then copy, view, etc. the files and directories inside. You do not need to specity the protocol as this (/net ) is a special directory like /proc for example. TO use /net you need to install autofs package.

You can mount SMB share on this way:

mount -t cifs -o user=<username> //<IP or hostname of SMB server>/<share name> /mount/point

For more details you can check Samba documentation

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  @Tim, you can mount SMB share on the same way you mount filesystem, see my edited answer
  
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pcmanfm uses gvfs, a GNOME Virtual FileSystem. It has SMB support in the gvfs-backends package, which depends on libsmbclient and suggests samba-common.

GVFS requires D-Bus and/or GIO module support for programs to use it, or a gvfs-fuse package that uses FUSE to allow mounting GVFS-accessible filesystems to be accessible by generic programs.

Also, a NFS server and client will trust each other on a much deeper level than a SMB server and client, if the classic NFS sec=sys security model is used, and so mounting a NFS filesystem must require administrative access. (Think of what you could do as a regular user if you could freely mount a filesystem containing setuid binaries of your choice from a server specified by you. The answer is "anything".) That is why implementing a user-accessible nfs:// protocol would not be trivial.

share|improve this answer

answered 1 hour ago

telcoMtelcoM

18.3k12347

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thanks. (1) How can I access a NFS shared irectory in pcmanfm, maybe similarly to a Samba shared directory? (2) " a NFS server and client will trust each other on a much deeper level than a SMB server and client". But I configured NFS server by /share 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check) by following linuxconfig.org/…, It turns out that there is no explicit authentication from a client side (another computer in the same local network). How can I configure the NFS server so that it can securely share a directory?
  
  – Tim
  1 hour ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

3

pcmanfm uses gvfs, a GNOME Virtual FileSystem. It has SMB support in the gvfs-backends package, which depends on libsmbclient and suggests samba-common.

GVFS requires D-Bus and/or GIO module support for programs to use it, or a gvfs-fuse package that uses FUSE to allow mounting GVFS-accessible filesystems to be accessible by generic programs.

Also, a NFS server and client will trust each other on a much deeper level than a SMB server and client, if the classic NFS sec=sys security model is used, and so mounting a NFS filesystem must require administrative access. (Think of what you could do as a regular user if you could freely mount a filesystem containing setuid binaries of your choice from a server specified by you. The answer is "anything".) That is why implementing a user-accessible nfs:// protocol would not be trivial.

share|improve this answer

answered 1 hour ago

telcoMtelcoM

18.3k12347

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thanks. (1) How can I access a NFS shared irectory in pcmanfm, maybe similarly to a Samba shared directory? (2) " a NFS server and client will trust each other on a much deeper level than a SMB server and client". But I configured NFS server by /share 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check) by following linuxconfig.org/…, It turns out that there is no explicit authentication from a client side (another computer in the same local network). How can I configure the NFS server so that it can securely share a directory?
  
  – Tim
  1 hour ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

pcmanfm uses gvfs, a GNOME Virtual FileSystem. It has SMB support in the gvfs-backends package, which depends on libsmbclient and suggests samba-common.

GVFS requires D-Bus and/or GIO module support for programs to use it, or a gvfs-fuse package that uses FUSE to allow mounting GVFS-accessible filesystems to be accessible by generic programs.

Also, a NFS server and client will trust each other on a much deeper level than a SMB server and client, if the classic NFS sec=sys security model is used, and so mounting a NFS filesystem must require administrative access. (Think of what you could do as a regular user if you could freely mount a filesystem containing setuid binaries of your choice from a server specified by you. The answer is "anything".) That is why implementing a user-accessible nfs:// protocol would not be trivial.

share|improve this answer

answered 1 hour ago

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Tim, you ask more than one question. But let me answer one (which I found interesting)

You do not need to mount the NFS share. You can access it on this way:

cd /net/<NFS server IP or hostname/path/to/shared/dir

and then copy, view, etc. the files and directories inside. You do not need to specity the protocol as this (/net ) is a special directory like /proc for example. TO use /net you need to install autofs package.

You can mount SMB share on this way:

mount -t cifs -o user=<username> //<IP or hostname of SMB server>/<share name> /mount/point

For more details you can check Samba documentation

share|improve this answer

edited 48 mins ago

answered 2 hours ago

Romeo NinovRomeo Ninov

6,46632028

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thanks. (1) Why is there no protocol name like nfs:// in the URL in your cd command, while I have to type smb:// in the address bar of a file manager? (2) can you mount a samba shared directory? If yes, how?
  
  – Tim
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Tim, you can mount SMB share on the same way you mount filesystem, see my edited answer
  
  – Romeo Ninov
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

1

Tim, you ask more than one question. But let me answer one (which I found interesting)

You do not need to mount the NFS share. You can access it on this way:

cd /net/<NFS server IP or hostname/path/to/shared/dir

and then copy, view, etc. the files and directories inside. You do not need to specity the protocol as this (/net ) is a special directory like /proc for example. TO use /net you need to install autofs package.

You can mount SMB share on this way:

mount -t cifs -o user=<username> //<IP or hostname of SMB server>/<share name> /mount/point

For more details you can check Samba documentation

share|improve this answer

edited 48 mins ago

answered 2 hours ago

Romeo NinovRomeo Ninov

6,46632028

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Thanks. (1) Why is there no protocol name like nfs:// in the URL in your cd command, while I have to type smb:// in the address bar of a file manager? (2) can you mount a samba shared directory? If yes, how?
  
  – Tim
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @Tim, you can mount SMB share on the same way you mount filesystem, see my edited answer
  
  – Romeo Ninov
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Tim, you ask more than one question. But let me answer one (which I found interesting)

You do not need to mount the NFS share. You can access it on this way:

cd /net/<NFS server IP or hostname/path/to/shared/dir

and then copy, view, etc. the files and directories inside. You do not need to specity the protocol as this (/net ) is a special directory like /proc for example. TO use /net you need to install autofs package.

You can mount SMB share on this way:

mount -t cifs -o user=<username> //<IP or hostname of SMB server>/<share name> /mount/point

For more details you can check Samba documentation

share|improve this answer

edited 48 mins ago

answered 2 hours ago

Romeo NinovRomeo Ninov

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cd /net/<NFS server IP or hostname/path/to/shared/dir

mount -t cifs -o user=<username> //<IP or hostname of SMB server>/<share name> /mount/point

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edited 48 mins ago

answered 2 hours ago

Romeo NinovRomeo Ninov

6,46632028

answered 2 hours ago

Romeo NinovRomeo Ninov

6,46632028

answered 2 hours ago

Romeo NinovRomeo Ninov

6,46632028