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Background :
I'm a newly hired in a Consulting Company (IT), recently, I've met with a client where my employer would like me to go work.
There, I had an interview and met the team.
The problem is that I know one of the member of the team for I had worked with him for 4 years.
Let's call him Bill. Bill is an IT technician, not a good one, may I add. I'm an admin / engineer. During that time together, Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
My work relationship with Bill went from bad to worse during this time.
But the worst part is that Bill has a history of sexual harassment. He has been fired for sending dirty texts to non-consenting female coworkers. He found their numbers by searching into HR files (which he had access to because).
After he was fired, several female coworkers on the office said that he texted them at some moment.
That was 1 year ago, and Bill didn't show any remorse at the time.
To conclude, there is no way I want and will work with Bill again.
Question(s) :
1 - I'm newly hired, so I can't refuse a client without explanation. Should I be honest with my employer or should I find another reason ?
2 - I'm quite sure the client doesn't know about Bill "past". Should I let them know ?
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Background :
I'm a newly hired in a Consulting Company (IT), recently, I've met with a client where my employer would like me to go work.
There, I had an interview and met the team.
The problem is that I know one of the member of the team for I had worked with him for 4 years.
Let's call him Bill. Bill is an IT technician, not a good one, may I add. I'm an admin / engineer. During that time together, Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
My work relationship with Bill went from bad to worse during this time.
But the worst part is that Bill has a history of sexual harassment. He has been fired for sending dirty texts to non-consenting female coworkers. He found their numbers by searching into HR files (which he had access to because).
After he was fired, several female coworkers on the office said that he texted them at some moment.
That was 1 year ago, and Bill didn't show any remorse at the time.
To conclude, there is no way I want and will work with Bill again.
Question(s) :
1 - I'm newly hired, so I can't refuse a client without explanation. Should I be honest with my employer or should I find another reason ?
2 - I'm quite sure the client doesn't know about Bill "past". Should I let them know ?
ethics unprofessional-behavior france
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This is your boss' problem, not yours. Simply and clearly (without being dramatic) tell your boss about the sexual harassment background, and do that immediately hesitation.
– Fattie
32 mins ago
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Background :
I'm a newly hired in a Consulting Company (IT), recently, I've met with a client where my employer would like me to go work.
There, I had an interview and met the team.
The problem is that I know one of the member of the team for I had worked with him for 4 years.
Let's call him Bill. Bill is an IT technician, not a good one, may I add. I'm an admin / engineer. During that time together, Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
My work relationship with Bill went from bad to worse during this time.
But the worst part is that Bill has a history of sexual harassment. He has been fired for sending dirty texts to non-consenting female coworkers. He found their numbers by searching into HR files (which he had access to because).
After he was fired, several female coworkers on the office said that he texted them at some moment.
That was 1 year ago, and Bill didn't show any remorse at the time.
To conclude, there is no way I want and will work with Bill again.
Question(s) :
1 - I'm newly hired, so I can't refuse a client without explanation. Should I be honest with my employer or should I find another reason ?
2 - I'm quite sure the client doesn't know about Bill "past". Should I let them know ?
ethics unprofessional-behavior france
asked 3 hours ago
RomainRomain
291
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Background :
I'm a newly hired in a Consulting Company (IT), recently, I've met with a client where my employer would like me to go work.
There, I had an interview and met the team.
The problem is that I know one of the member of the team for I had worked with him for 4 years.
Let's call him Bill. Bill is an IT technician, not a good one, may I add. I'm an admin / engineer. During that time together, Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
My work relationship with Bill went from bad to worse during this time.
But the worst part is that Bill has a history of sexual harassment. He has been fired for sending dirty texts to non-consenting female coworkers. He found their numbers by searching into HR files (which he had access to because).
After he was fired, several female coworkers on the office said that he texted them at some moment.
That was 1 year ago, and Bill didn't show any remorse at the time.
To conclude, there is no way I want and will work with Bill again.
Question(s) :
1 - I'm newly hired, so I can't refuse a client without explanation. Should I be honest with my employer or should I find another reason ?
2 - I'm quite sure the client doesn't know about Bill "past". Should I let them know ?
ethics unprofessional-behavior france
ethics unprofessional-behavior france
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This is your boss' problem, not yours. Simply and clearly (without being dramatic) tell your boss about the sexual harassment background, and do that immediately hesitation.
– Fattie
32 mins ago
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1
This is your boss' problem, not yours. Simply and clearly (without being dramatic) tell your boss about the sexual harassment background, and do that immediately hesitation.
– Fattie
32 mins ago
1
1
This is your boss' problem, not yours. Simply and clearly (without being dramatic) tell your boss about the sexual harassment background, and do that immediately hesitation.
– Fattie
32 mins ago
This is your boss' problem, not yours. Simply and clearly (without being dramatic) tell your boss about the sexual harassment background, and do that immediately hesitation.
– Fattie
32 mins ago
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I would suggest that you have a meeting with your manager and HR and explain the situation - giving them your reasons is one thing - that should stay private between them and you.
However, what is said to the customer is up to your manager - he may say "oh, for X reason we have had to change engineer"...
I don't think you should tell Bill's employer your true reason.
Definitely talk with your HR or someone who can give you solid advice, step carefully... BUT definitely talk to someone; if Bill has changed his game (possibly for the worse...) you don't want to be around...
Best wishes...
answered 3 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
1,141311
I was trying to help you make your answer better. My comment was for you to read. You read it. No need to leave it there.
– Joe Strazzere
17 mins ago
add a comment |
You can't pick and chose who you work with, nor are you there to police peoples behaviour or provide "community service" by informing their employer of their past.
That last part might be confidential or private information btw.so bite your tongue!
If you have valid(!) professional reasons, inform your superior that those are why you can't work with the person.
If you have been harrassed by him, you can tell that your manager as well.
However, from what you said, I'm afraid you just need to be professional and suck it up.
You still can let your superior know that out of professional and private reasons you don't want to work with him.
If you're not the only one they can send and if your boss doesn't think you're being unprofessional you still might dodge that bullet.
Be prepared however that your managers opinion about you might shift negatively.
answered 3 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
8,2902932
Yep, a sign of professionalism is not letting personal issues impact your work.
– Kilisi
3 hours ago
You certainly can pick and choose who you work with, it's just that the price of making a choice may be very high indeed
– Dave Gremlin
1 hour ago
add a comment |
I'll focus on the work-related issue.
Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
As a consultant you're in a much better position to deal with this. If you ask Bill to do something, he's expected to do it unless he has a good reason not to.
His company is paying for your time and expertise, if Bill wilfully ignores your advice, then you document it, make the implications clear of failing to follow your advice, and ask his boss what they want you to do next.
In terms of 'Not wanting to work with him because he's a creep,' unless you believe you are personally at risk; I don't think it's a good reason, of course if you witness anything out of line you are morally obliged to report it. Unless you have hard evidence of his past misdemeanours, discussing them might open you up to being sued for defamation etc.
answered 1 hour ago
JeffUKJeffUK
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I would suggest that you have a meeting with your manager and HR and explain the situation - giving them your reasons is one thing - that should stay private between them and you.
However, what is said to the customer is up to your manager - he may say "oh, for X reason we have had to change engineer"...
I don't think you should tell Bill's employer your true reason.
Definitely talk with your HR or someone who can give you solid advice, step carefully... BUT definitely talk to someone; if Bill has changed his game (possibly for the worse...) you don't want to be around...
Best wishes...
answered 3 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
1,141311
I was trying to help you make your answer better. My comment was for you to read. You read it. No need to leave it there.
– Joe Strazzere
17 mins ago
add a comment |
I would suggest that you have a meeting with your manager and HR and explain the situation - giving them your reasons is one thing - that should stay private between them and you.
However, what is said to the customer is up to your manager - he may say "oh, for X reason we have had to change engineer"...
I don't think you should tell Bill's employer your true reason.
Definitely talk with your HR or someone who can give you solid advice, step carefully... BUT definitely talk to someone; if Bill has changed his game (possibly for the worse...) you don't want to be around...
Best wishes...
answered 3 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
1,141311
I was trying to help you make your answer better. My comment was for you to read. You read it. No need to leave it there.
– Joe Strazzere
17 mins ago
add a comment |
I would suggest that you have a meeting with your manager and HR and explain the situation - giving them your reasons is one thing - that should stay private between them and you.
However, what is said to the customer is up to your manager - he may say "oh, for X reason we have had to change engineer"...
I don't think you should tell Bill's employer your true reason.
Definitely talk with your HR or someone who can give you solid advice, step carefully... BUT definitely talk to someone; if Bill has changed his game (possibly for the worse...) you don't want to be around...
Best wishes...
answered 3 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
1,141311
I would suggest that you have a meeting with your manager and HR and explain the situation - giving them your reasons is one thing - that should stay private between them and you.
However, what is said to the customer is up to your manager - he may say "oh, for X reason we have had to change engineer"...
I don't think you should tell Bill's employer your true reason.
Definitely talk with your HR or someone who can give you solid advice, step carefully... BUT definitely talk to someone; if Bill has changed his game (possibly for the worse...) you don't want to be around...
Best wishes...
answered 3 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
1,141311
edited 49 mins ago
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Solar MikeSolar Mike
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answered 3 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
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answered 3 hours ago
Solar MikeSolar Mike
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I was trying to help you make your answer better. My comment was for you to read. You read it. No need to leave it there.
– Joe Strazzere
17 mins ago
add a comment |
I was trying to help you make your answer better. My comment was for you to read. You read it. No need to leave it there.
– Joe Strazzere
17 mins ago
I was trying to help you make your answer better. My comment was for you to read. You read it. No need to leave it there.
– Joe Strazzere
17 mins ago
I was trying to help you make your answer better. My comment was for you to read. You read it. No need to leave it there.
– Joe Strazzere
17 mins ago
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You can't pick and chose who you work with, nor are you there to police peoples behaviour or provide "community service" by informing their employer of their past.
That last part might be confidential or private information btw.so bite your tongue!
If you have valid(!) professional reasons, inform your superior that those are why you can't work with the person.
If you have been harrassed by him, you can tell that your manager as well.
However, from what you said, I'm afraid you just need to be professional and suck it up.
You still can let your superior know that out of professional and private reasons you don't want to work with him.
If you're not the only one they can send and if your boss doesn't think you're being unprofessional you still might dodge that bullet.
Be prepared however that your managers opinion about you might shift negatively.
answered 3 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
8,2902932
Yep, a sign of professionalism is not letting personal issues impact your work.
– Kilisi
3 hours ago
You certainly can pick and choose who you work with, it's just that the price of making a choice may be very high indeed
– Dave Gremlin
1 hour ago
add a comment |
You can't pick and chose who you work with, nor are you there to police peoples behaviour or provide "community service" by informing their employer of their past.
That last part might be confidential or private information btw.so bite your tongue!
If you have valid(!) professional reasons, inform your superior that those are why you can't work with the person.
If you have been harrassed by him, you can tell that your manager as well.
However, from what you said, I'm afraid you just need to be professional and suck it up.
You still can let your superior know that out of professional and private reasons you don't want to work with him.
If you're not the only one they can send and if your boss doesn't think you're being unprofessional you still might dodge that bullet.
Be prepared however that your managers opinion about you might shift negatively.
answered 3 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
8,2902932
Yep, a sign of professionalism is not letting personal issues impact your work.
– Kilisi
3 hours ago
You certainly can pick and choose who you work with, it's just that the price of making a choice may be very high indeed
– Dave Gremlin
1 hour ago
add a comment |
You can't pick and chose who you work with, nor are you there to police peoples behaviour or provide "community service" by informing their employer of their past.
That last part might be confidential or private information btw.so bite your tongue!
If you have valid(!) professional reasons, inform your superior that those are why you can't work with the person.
If you have been harrassed by him, you can tell that your manager as well.
However, from what you said, I'm afraid you just need to be professional and suck it up.
You still can let your superior know that out of professional and private reasons you don't want to work with him.
If you're not the only one they can send and if your boss doesn't think you're being unprofessional you still might dodge that bullet.
Be prepared however that your managers opinion about you might shift negatively.
answered 3 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
8,2902932
You can't pick and chose who you work with, nor are you there to police peoples behaviour or provide "community service" by informing their employer of their past.
That last part might be confidential or private information btw.so bite your tongue!
If you have valid(!) professional reasons, inform your superior that those are why you can't work with the person.
If you have been harrassed by him, you can tell that your manager as well.
However, from what you said, I'm afraid you just need to be professional and suck it up.
You still can let your superior know that out of professional and private reasons you don't want to work with him.
If you're not the only one they can send and if your boss doesn't think you're being unprofessional you still might dodge that bullet.
Be prepared however that your managers opinion about you might shift negatively.
answered 3 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
8,2902932
edited 3 hours ago
answered 3 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
8,2902932
answered 3 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
8,2902932
answered 3 hours ago
DigitalBlade969DigitalBlade969
8,2902932
8,2902932
Yep, a sign of professionalism is not letting personal issues impact your work.
– Kilisi
3 hours ago
You certainly can pick and choose who you work with, it's just that the price of making a choice may be very high indeed
– Dave Gremlin
1 hour ago
add a comment |
Yep, a sign of professionalism is not letting personal issues impact your work.
– Kilisi
3 hours ago
You certainly can pick and choose who you work with, it's just that the price of making a choice may be very high indeed
– Dave Gremlin
1 hour ago
Yep, a sign of professionalism is not letting personal issues impact your work.
– Kilisi
3 hours ago
Yep, a sign of professionalism is not letting personal issues impact your work.
– Kilisi
3 hours ago
You certainly can pick and choose who you work with, it's just that the price of making a choice may be very high indeed
– Dave Gremlin
1 hour ago
You certainly can pick and choose who you work with, it's just that the price of making a choice may be very high indeed
– Dave Gremlin
1 hour ago
add a comment |
I'll focus on the work-related issue.
Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
As a consultant you're in a much better position to deal with this. If you ask Bill to do something, he's expected to do it unless he has a good reason not to.
His company is paying for your time and expertise, if Bill wilfully ignores your advice, then you document it, make the implications clear of failing to follow your advice, and ask his boss what they want you to do next.
In terms of 'Not wanting to work with him because he's a creep,' unless you believe you are personally at risk; I don't think it's a good reason, of course if you witness anything out of line you are morally obliged to report it. Unless you have hard evidence of his past misdemeanours, discussing them might open you up to being sued for defamation etc.
answered 1 hour ago
JeffUKJeffUK
40227
add a comment |
I'll focus on the work-related issue.
Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
As a consultant you're in a much better position to deal with this. If you ask Bill to do something, he's expected to do it unless he has a good reason not to.
His company is paying for your time and expertise, if Bill wilfully ignores your advice, then you document it, make the implications clear of failing to follow your advice, and ask his boss what they want you to do next.
In terms of 'Not wanting to work with him because he's a creep,' unless you believe you are personally at risk; I don't think it's a good reason, of course if you witness anything out of line you are morally obliged to report it. Unless you have hard evidence of his past misdemeanours, discussing them might open you up to being sued for defamation etc.
answered 1 hour ago
JeffUKJeffUK
40227
add a comment |
I'll focus on the work-related issue.
Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
As a consultant you're in a much better position to deal with this. If you ask Bill to do something, he's expected to do it unless he has a good reason not to.
His company is paying for your time and expertise, if Bill wilfully ignores your advice, then you document it, make the implications clear of failing to follow your advice, and ask his boss what they want you to do next.
In terms of 'Not wanting to work with him because he's a creep,' unless you believe you are personally at risk; I don't think it's a good reason, of course if you witness anything out of line you are morally obliged to report it. Unless you have hard evidence of his past misdemeanours, discussing them might open you up to being sued for defamation etc.
answered 1 hour ago
JeffUKJeffUK
40227
I'll focus on the work-related issue.
Bill never wanted to do something he didn't come with. Got a solution about that problem that bugs everyone for 6 months, too bad, Bill doesn't like it, Bill doesn't do it.
As a consultant you're in a much better position to deal with this. If you ask Bill to do something, he's expected to do it unless he has a good reason not to.
His company is paying for your time and expertise, if Bill wilfully ignores your advice, then you document it, make the implications clear of failing to follow your advice, and ask his boss what they want you to do next.
In terms of 'Not wanting to work with him because he's a creep,' unless you believe you are personally at risk; I don't think it's a good reason, of course if you witness anything out of line you are morally obliged to report it. Unless you have hard evidence of his past misdemeanours, discussing them might open you up to being sued for defamation etc.
answered 1 hour ago
JeffUKJeffUK
40227
answered 1 hour ago
JeffUKJeffUK
40227
answered 1 hour ago
JeffUKJeffUK
40227
answered 1 hour ago
JeffUKJeffUK
40227
40227
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This is your boss' problem, not yours. Simply and clearly (without being dramatic) tell your boss about the sexual harassment background, and do that immediately hesitation.
– Fattie
32 mins ago