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I am encountering an odd problem. I want to create composite characters such as ǎ using the newunicodechar package. However, it only yields a result in combination with the xeCJK package.



This code produces missing characters:



documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}

usepackage{fontspec}

usepackage{xunicode}



usepackage[british]{babel}



setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Minion Pro}



usepackage{newunicodechar}

newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}

newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}

newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}

newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}

newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}

newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}





begin{document}



ǚ Ǚ ǎ





end{document}


If I load the xeCJK package then the characters render just fine.
Why is that? And how to generate composite characters without the named package?



Note:




  • this is reproducible with other fonts that do not contain the unicode characters (e.g. Adobe Garamond Pro)

  • Minion Pro does contain a caron character (unicode 02C7, index 136)






xetex fontspec accents xecjk newunicodechar







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    I am encountering an odd problem. I want to create composite characters such as ǎ using the newunicodechar package. However, it only yields a result in combination with the xeCJK package.



    This code produces missing characters:



    documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}
    
usepackage{fontspec}
    
usepackage{xunicode}
    

    
usepackage[british]{babel}
    

    
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Minion Pro}
    

    
usepackage{newunicodechar}
    
newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}
    
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}
    
newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}
    
newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
    
newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
    
newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
    

    

    
begin{document}
    

    
ǚ Ǚ ǎ
    

    

    
end{document}


    If I load the xeCJK package then the characters render just fine.
    Why is that? And how to generate composite characters without the named package?



    Note:




    • this is reproducible with other fonts that do not contain the unicode characters (e.g. Adobe Garamond Pro)

    • Minion Pro does contain a caron character (unicode 02C7, index 136)






    xetex fontspec accents xecjk newunicodechar







    share|improve this question

























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      I am encountering an odd problem. I want to create composite characters such as ǎ using the newunicodechar package. However, it only yields a result in combination with the xeCJK package.



      This code produces missing characters:



      documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}
      
usepackage{fontspec}
      
usepackage{xunicode}
      

      
usepackage[british]{babel}
      

      
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Minion Pro}
      

      
usepackage{newunicodechar}
      
newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}
      
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}
      
newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}
      
newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
      
newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
      
newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
      

      

      
begin{document}
      

      
ǚ Ǚ ǎ
      

      

      
end{document}


      If I load the xeCJK package then the characters render just fine.
      Why is that? And how to generate composite characters without the named package?



      Note:




      • this is reproducible with other fonts that do not contain the unicode characters (e.g. Adobe Garamond Pro)

      • Minion Pro does contain a caron character (unicode 02C7, index 136)






      xetex fontspec accents xecjk newunicodechar







      share|improve this question














      I am encountering an odd problem. I want to create composite characters such as ǎ using the newunicodechar package. However, it only yields a result in combination with the xeCJK package.



      This code produces missing characters:



      documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}
      
usepackage{fontspec}
      
usepackage{xunicode}
      

      
usepackage[british]{babel}
      

      
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Minion Pro}
      

      
usepackage{newunicodechar}
      
newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}
      
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}
      
newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}
      
newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
      
newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
      
newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
      

      

      
begin{document}
      

      
ǚ Ǚ ǎ
      

      

      
end{document}


      If I load the xeCJK package then the characters render just fine.
      Why is that? And how to generate composite characters without the named package?



      Note:




      • this is reproducible with other fonts that do not contain the unicode characters (e.g. Adobe Garamond Pro)

      • Minion Pro does contain a caron character (unicode 02C7, index 136)






      xetex fontspec accents xecjk newunicodechar




      xetex fontspec accents xecjk newunicodechar






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          The default setup doesn't use unicode U+02C7, but the combining accent U+030C which is missing in your font. xecjk contains some code to use U+02C7 instead, but seems to use this code only if xunicode is loaded too - which is a bit of a pain, as normally one shouldn't use it anymore.



          You can clone the xeCJK code by using add@accent. If more fonts are involved where some have the combining accent, some additional checks for glyph existence are probably needed. 



          documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}
          

          
usepackage{fontspec}
          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{MinionPro-Regular.otf}
          

          
usepackage{newunicodechar}
          
makeatletter
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{a}}
          
makeatother
          
%newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
%newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
%newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          
%
          
begin{document}
          
abc 
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ
          

          
end{document}


          enter image description here






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          • Thanks! As always you're answering my questions :) Could this be a potential feature request for newunicodechar: Substitute combining characters automatically?

            – Paul
            31 mins ago













          • No, newunicodechar doesn't care about the code you use, you could also input a picture. But you make a feature request for latex, the kernel could perhaps add a fall back to 02c7 to the definition of v.

            – Ulrike Fischer
            26 mins ago











          • Are you sure I can just submit it to the Latex2e github?

            – Paul
            2 mins ago



















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          Based on a trick by Egreg, this uses the accent primitive. I chose to simply redefine v.



          documentclass{standalone}
          
usepackage{fontspec, newunicodechar}
          

          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Cardo}
          

          
renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1}
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          

          
begin{document}
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ
          

          
end{document}


          ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ



          I picked Cardo as a common font that contains the caron accent, but not the precomposed ǚ.






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          • I can reproduce the MWE of this solution with Minion Pro. However, for some reason it doesn't work in my actual main file. There is some clash with another package, and I cannot identify (yet) which one it is.

            – Paul
            13 mins ago











          • You might to change the documentclass back, if you didn’t. I switched to standalone for the convenience of creating a cropped image. Anyway, just adding the line renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1} ought to work.

            – Davislor
            4 mins ago













          • I already checked and your solution definitely works with documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir} Must be something else...

            – Paul
            3 mins ago











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          The default setup doesn't use unicode U+02C7, but the combining accent U+030C which is missing in your font. xecjk contains some code to use U+02C7 instead, but seems to use this code only if xunicode is loaded too - which is a bit of a pain, as normally one shouldn't use it anymore.



          You can clone the xeCJK code by using add@accent. If more fonts are involved where some have the combining accent, some additional checks for glyph existence are probably needed. 



          documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}
          

          
usepackage{fontspec}
          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{MinionPro-Regular.otf}
          

          
usepackage{newunicodechar}
          
makeatletter
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{a}}
          
makeatother
          
%newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
%newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
%newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          
%
          
begin{document}
          
abc 
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ
          

          
end{document}


          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer
























          • Thanks! As always you're answering my questions :) Could this be a potential feature request for newunicodechar: Substitute combining characters automatically?

            – Paul
            31 mins ago













          • No, newunicodechar doesn't care about the code you use, you could also input a picture. But you make a feature request for latex, the kernel could perhaps add a fall back to 02c7 to the definition of v.

            – Ulrike Fischer
            26 mins ago











          • Are you sure I can just submit it to the Latex2e github?

            – Paul
            2 mins ago
















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          The default setup doesn't use unicode U+02C7, but the combining accent U+030C which is missing in your font. xecjk contains some code to use U+02C7 instead, but seems to use this code only if xunicode is loaded too - which is a bit of a pain, as normally one shouldn't use it anymore.



          You can clone the xeCJK code by using add@accent. If more fonts are involved where some have the combining accent, some additional checks for glyph existence are probably needed. 



          documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}
          

          
usepackage{fontspec}
          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{MinionPro-Regular.otf}
          

          
usepackage{newunicodechar}
          
makeatletter
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{a}}
          
makeatother
          
%newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
%newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
%newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          
%
          
begin{document}
          
abc 
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ
          

          
end{document}


          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer
























          • Thanks! As always you're answering my questions :) Could this be a potential feature request for newunicodechar: Substitute combining characters automatically?

            – Paul
            31 mins ago













          • No, newunicodechar doesn't care about the code you use, you could also input a picture. But you make a feature request for latex, the kernel could perhaps add a fall back to 02c7 to the definition of v.

            – Ulrike Fischer
            26 mins ago











          • Are you sure I can just submit it to the Latex2e github?

            – Paul
            2 mins ago














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          4







          The default setup doesn't use unicode U+02C7, but the combining accent U+030C which is missing in your font. xecjk contains some code to use U+02C7 instead, but seems to use this code only if xunicode is loaded too - which is a bit of a pain, as normally one shouldn't use it anymore.



          You can clone the xeCJK code by using add@accent. If more fonts are involved where some have the combining accent, some additional checks for glyph existence are probably needed. 



          documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}
          

          
usepackage{fontspec}
          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{MinionPro-Regular.otf}
          

          
usepackage{newunicodechar}
          
makeatletter
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{a}}
          
makeatother
          
%newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
%newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
%newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          
%
          
begin{document}
          
abc 
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ
          

          
end{document}


          enter image description here






          share|improve this answer













          The default setup doesn't use unicode U+02C7, but the combining accent U+030C which is missing in your font. xecjk contains some code to use U+02C7 instead, but seems to use this code only if xunicode is loaded too - which is a bit of a pain, as normally one shouldn't use it anymore.



          You can clone the xeCJK code by using add@accent. If more fonts are involved where some have the combining accent, some additional checks for glyph existence are probably needed. 



          documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir}
          

          
usepackage{fontspec}
          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{MinionPro-Regular.otf}
          

          
usepackage{newunicodechar}
          
makeatletter
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{add@accent{`^^^^02c7}{a}}
          
makeatother
          
%newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
%newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
%newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          
%
          
begin{document}
          
abc 
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ
          

          
end{document}


          enter image description here







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          Ulrike FischerUlrike Fischer

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          • Thanks! As always you're answering my questions :) Could this be a potential feature request for newunicodechar: Substitute combining characters automatically?

            – Paul
            31 mins ago













          • No, newunicodechar doesn't care about the code you use, you could also input a picture. But you make a feature request for latex, the kernel could perhaps add a fall back to 02c7 to the definition of v.

            – Ulrike Fischer
            26 mins ago











          • Are you sure I can just submit it to the Latex2e github?

            – Paul
            2 mins ago



















          • Thanks! As always you're answering my questions :) Could this be a potential feature request for newunicodechar: Substitute combining characters automatically?

            – Paul
            31 mins ago













          • No, newunicodechar doesn't care about the code you use, you could also input a picture. But you make a feature request for latex, the kernel could perhaps add a fall back to 02c7 to the definition of v.

            – Ulrike Fischer
            26 mins ago











          • Are you sure I can just submit it to the Latex2e github?

            – Paul
            2 mins ago

















          Thanks! As always you're answering my questions :) Could this be a potential feature request for newunicodechar: Substitute combining characters automatically?

          – Paul
          31 mins ago







          Thanks! As always you're answering my questions :) Could this be a potential feature request for newunicodechar: Substitute combining characters automatically?

          – Paul
          31 mins ago















          No, newunicodechar doesn't care about the code you use, you could also input a picture. But you make a feature request for latex, the kernel could perhaps add a fall back to 02c7 to the definition of v.

          – Ulrike Fischer
          26 mins ago





          No, newunicodechar doesn't care about the code you use, you could also input a picture. But you make a feature request for latex, the kernel could perhaps add a fall back to 02c7 to the definition of v.

          – Ulrike Fischer
          26 mins ago













          Are you sure I can just submit it to the Latex2e github?

          – Paul
          2 mins ago





          Are you sure I can just submit it to the Latex2e github?

          – Paul
          2 mins ago











          1














          Based on a trick by Egreg, this uses the accent primitive. I chose to simply redefine v.



          documentclass{standalone}
          
usepackage{fontspec, newunicodechar}
          

          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Cardo}
          

          
renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1}
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          

          
begin{document}
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ
          

          
end{document}


          ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ



          I picked Cardo as a common font that contains the caron accent, but not the precomposed ǚ.






          share|improve this answer
























          • I can reproduce the MWE of this solution with Minion Pro. However, for some reason it doesn't work in my actual main file. There is some clash with another package, and I cannot identify (yet) which one it is.

            – Paul
            13 mins ago











          • You might to change the documentclass back, if you didn’t. I switched to standalone for the convenience of creating a cropped image. Anyway, just adding the line renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1} ought to work.

            – Davislor
            4 mins ago













          • I already checked and your solution definitely works with documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir} Must be something else...

            – Paul
            3 mins ago
















          1














          Based on a trick by Egreg, this uses the accent primitive. I chose to simply redefine v.



          documentclass{standalone}
          
usepackage{fontspec, newunicodechar}
          

          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Cardo}
          

          
renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1}
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          

          
begin{document}
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ
          

          
end{document}


          ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ



          I picked Cardo as a common font that contains the caron accent, but not the precomposed ǚ.






          share|improve this answer
























          • I can reproduce the MWE of this solution with Minion Pro. However, for some reason it doesn't work in my actual main file. There is some clash with another package, and I cannot identify (yet) which one it is.

            – Paul
            13 mins ago











          • You might to change the documentclass back, if you didn’t. I switched to standalone for the convenience of creating a cropped image. Anyway, just adding the line renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1} ought to work.

            – Davislor
            4 mins ago













          • I already checked and your solution definitely works with documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir} Must be something else...

            – Paul
            3 mins ago














          1












          1








          1







          Based on a trick by Egreg, this uses the accent primitive. I chose to simply redefine v.



          documentclass{standalone}
          
usepackage{fontspec, newunicodechar}
          

          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Cardo}
          

          
renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1}
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          

          
begin{document}
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ
          

          
end{document}


          ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ



          I picked Cardo as a common font that contains the caron accent, but not the precomposed ǚ.






          share|improve this answer













          Based on a trick by Egreg, this uses the accent primitive. I chose to simply redefine v.



          documentclass{standalone}
          
usepackage{fontspec, newunicodechar}
          

          
usepackage[british]{babel}
          

          
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]{Cardo}
          

          
renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1}
          

          
newunicodechar{ǚ}{v{ü}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǚ}{v{Ü}}
          
newunicodechar{ǎ}{v{a}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǎ}{v{A}}
          
newunicodechar{ǒ}{v{o}}
          
newunicodechar{Ǒ}{v{O}}
          

          
begin{document}
          

          
ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ
          

          
end{document}


          ǚ Ǚ ǎ Ǎ ǒ Ǒ



          I picked Cardo as a common font that contains the caron accent, but not the precomposed ǚ.







          share|improve this answer












          share|improve this answer



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          answered 30 mins ago









          DavislorDavislor

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          • I can reproduce the MWE of this solution with Minion Pro. However, for some reason it doesn't work in my actual main file. There is some clash with another package, and I cannot identify (yet) which one it is.

            – Paul
            13 mins ago











          • You might to change the documentclass back, if you didn’t. I switched to standalone for the convenience of creating a cropped image. Anyway, just adding the line renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1} ought to work.

            – Davislor
            4 mins ago













          • I already checked and your solution definitely works with documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir} Must be something else...

            – Paul
            3 mins ago



















          • I can reproduce the MWE of this solution with Minion Pro. However, for some reason it doesn't work in my actual main file. There is some clash with another package, and I cannot identify (yet) which one it is.

            – Paul
            13 mins ago











          • You might to change the documentclass back, if you didn’t. I switched to standalone for the convenience of creating a cropped image. Anyway, just adding the line renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1} ought to work.

            – Davislor
            4 mins ago













          • I already checked and your solution definitely works with documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir} Must be something else...

            – Paul
            3 mins ago

















          I can reproduce the MWE of this solution with Minion Pro. However, for some reason it doesn't work in my actual main file. There is some clash with another package, and I cannot identify (yet) which one it is.

          – Paul
          13 mins ago





          I can reproduce the MWE of this solution with Minion Pro. However, for some reason it doesn't work in my actual main file. There is some clash with another package, and I cannot identify (yet) which one it is.

          – Paul
          13 mins ago













          You might to change the documentclass back, if you didn’t. I switched to standalone for the convenience of creating a cropped image. Anyway, just adding the line renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1} ought to work.

          – Davislor
          4 mins ago







          You might to change the documentclass back, if you didn’t. I switched to standalone for the convenience of creating a cropped image. Anyway, just adding the line renewcommandv[1]{accentstring"02C7 #1} ought to work.

          – Davislor
          4 mins ago















          I already checked and your solution definitely works with documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir} Must be something else...

          – Paul
          3 mins ago





          I already checked and your solution definitely works with documentclass[a4paper,12pt,article,oneside]{memoir} Must be something else...

          – Paul
          3 mins ago


















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