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Ways to help a math PhD out of depression [on hold]


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I have a friend who is having trouble in his math PhD career and is recently down with depression. He has decided to take a break from research and receive some medication. To help him recover faster and better, I am asking if anyone here with experience in helping depressed math PhDs could contribute his/her advice. Thanks in advance.



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  • "This question does not appear to be about research level mathematics within the scope defined in the help center." – Andrés E. Caicedo, Ryan Budney, მამუკა ჯიბლაძე, abx, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine

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    If he is going to take antidepressants, very soon he will need to restrain his creative fantasy
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    I believe Academia or Psychology might be more appropriate. If this person is not too depressed, they can search the web for others' experiences. I think you should repost the question elsewhere, not here. Gerhard "Out-of-scope Questions Can Be Depressing" Paseman, 2019.02.21.
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    I agree with Gerhard that this question is a bit out of place here and may fit in better on academia stackexchange (see here for example academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28257/…), but I’d like to express sympathy for their situation and my well wishes; the life of any PhD student (but arguably pure math PhD’s more than most) can certainly be lonely at times, and I think we all understand the struggle to some extent.
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I have a friend who is having trouble in his math PhD career and is recently down with depression. He has decided to take a break from research and receive some medication. To help him recover faster and better, I am asking if anyone here with experience in helping depressed math PhDs could contribute his/her advice. Thanks in advance.



PS. If this question is more suitable on another stackexchange website, please feel free to move it there.










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put on hold as off-topic by Andrés E. Caicedo, Ryan Budney, მამუკა ჯიბლაძე, abx, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine 8 mins ago


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "This question does not appear to be about research level mathematics within the scope defined in the help center." – Andrés E. Caicedo, Ryan Budney, მამუკა ჯიბლაძე, abx, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
















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    If he is going to take antidepressants, very soon he will need to restrain his creative fantasy
    $endgroup$
    – მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
    3 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    I believe Academia or Psychology might be more appropriate. If this person is not too depressed, they can search the web for others' experiences. I think you should repost the question elsewhere, not here. Gerhard "Out-of-scope Questions Can Be Depressing" Paseman, 2019.02.21.
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    3 hours ago






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    I agree with Gerhard that this question is a bit out of place here and may fit in better on academia stackexchange (see here for example academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28257/…), but I’d like to express sympathy for their situation and my well wishes; the life of any PhD student (but arguably pure math PhD’s more than most) can certainly be lonely at times, and I think we all understand the struggle to some extent.
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    – Alec Rhea
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I have a friend who is having trouble in his math PhD career and is recently down with depression. He has decided to take a break from research and receive some medication. To help him recover faster and better, I am asking if anyone here with experience in helping depressed math PhDs could contribute his/her advice. Thanks in advance.



PS. If this question is more suitable on another stackexchange website, please feel free to move it there.










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I have a friend who is having trouble in his math PhD career and is recently down with depression. He has decided to take a break from research and receive some medication. To help him recover faster and better, I am asking if anyone here with experience in helping depressed math PhDs could contribute his/her advice. Thanks in advance.



PS. If this question is more suitable on another stackexchange website, please feel free to move it there.







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put on hold as off-topic by Andrés E. Caicedo, Ryan Budney, მამუკა ჯიბლაძე, abx, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine 8 mins ago


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "This question does not appear to be about research level mathematics within the scope defined in the help center." – Andrés E. Caicedo, Ryan Budney, მამუკა ჯიბლაძე, abx, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.







put on hold as off-topic by Andrés E. Caicedo, Ryan Budney, მამუკა ჯიბლაძე, abx, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine 8 mins ago


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "This question does not appear to be about research level mathematics within the scope defined in the help center." – Andrés E. Caicedo, Ryan Budney, მამუკა ჯიბლაძე, abx, Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.












  • $begingroup$
    If he is going to take antidepressants, very soon he will need to restrain his creative fantasy
    $endgroup$
    – მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I believe Academia or Psychology might be more appropriate. If this person is not too depressed, they can search the web for others' experiences. I think you should repost the question elsewhere, not here. Gerhard "Out-of-scope Questions Can Be Depressing" Paseman, 2019.02.21.
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    – Gerhard Paseman
    3 hours ago






  • 6




    $begingroup$
    I agree with Gerhard that this question is a bit out of place here and may fit in better on academia stackexchange (see here for example academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28257/…), but I’d like to express sympathy for their situation and my well wishes; the life of any PhD student (but arguably pure math PhD’s more than most) can certainly be lonely at times, and I think we all understand the struggle to some extent.
    $endgroup$
    – Alec Rhea
    2 hours ago




















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    If he is going to take antidepressants, very soon he will need to restrain his creative fantasy
    $endgroup$
    – მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I believe Academia or Psychology might be more appropriate. If this person is not too depressed, they can search the web for others' experiences. I think you should repost the question elsewhere, not here. Gerhard "Out-of-scope Questions Can Be Depressing" Paseman, 2019.02.21.
    $endgroup$
    – Gerhard Paseman
    3 hours ago






  • 6




    $begingroup$
    I agree with Gerhard that this question is a bit out of place here and may fit in better on academia stackexchange (see here for example academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28257/…), but I’d like to express sympathy for their situation and my well wishes; the life of any PhD student (but arguably pure math PhD’s more than most) can certainly be lonely at times, and I think we all understand the struggle to some extent.
    $endgroup$
    – Alec Rhea
    2 hours ago


















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If he is going to take antidepressants, very soon he will need to restrain his creative fantasy
$endgroup$
– მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
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$begingroup$
If he is going to take antidepressants, very soon he will need to restrain his creative fantasy
$endgroup$
– მამუკა ჯიბლაძე
3 hours ago




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$begingroup$
I believe Academia or Psychology might be more appropriate. If this person is not too depressed, they can search the web for others' experiences. I think you should repost the question elsewhere, not here. Gerhard "Out-of-scope Questions Can Be Depressing" Paseman, 2019.02.21.
$endgroup$
– Gerhard Paseman
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
I believe Academia or Psychology might be more appropriate. If this person is not too depressed, they can search the web for others' experiences. I think you should repost the question elsewhere, not here. Gerhard "Out-of-scope Questions Can Be Depressing" Paseman, 2019.02.21.
$endgroup$
– Gerhard Paseman
3 hours ago




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$begingroup$
I agree with Gerhard that this question is a bit out of place here and may fit in better on academia stackexchange (see here for example academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28257/…), but I’d like to express sympathy for their situation and my well wishes; the life of any PhD student (but arguably pure math PhD’s more than most) can certainly be lonely at times, and I think we all understand the struggle to some extent.
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– Alec Rhea
2 hours ago






$begingroup$
I agree with Gerhard that this question is a bit out of place here and may fit in better on academia stackexchange (see here for example academia.stackexchange.com/questions/28257/…), but I’d like to express sympathy for their situation and my well wishes; the life of any PhD student (but arguably pure math PhD’s more than most) can certainly be lonely at times, and I think we all understand the struggle to some extent.
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– Alec Rhea
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I do have something to share. I would ask the following:



1) Is he getting well with his advisor?



2) Does he have a daily routine (i.e wake up at 8AM everyday, preparing for teaching, going to gym at 11AM, reading papers from 1PM, attending weekly seminar at 3PM, etc). This can be crucial to get someone out of the state of depression.



3) Does he have potential plans after the PhD (with or without the degree)?



If the answers are No, I would suggest taking some concrete steps now (switch to a new advisor, form a daily life routine, consider a Plan $B$ or even Plan $Z$ in case academia does not work for him).



In case he still love doing research, I would encourage him/her talk to some mathematican in industry but still actively doing research to have a better sense how to achieve this. If I recall correctly, Yakov Eliashberg, Vladmir Berkovich and
Jeffrey Lagarias all worked at industry at some point, not to mention street names like Yitang Zhang.






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    I do have something to share. I would ask the following:



    1) Is he getting well with his advisor?



    2) Does he have a daily routine (i.e wake up at 8AM everyday, preparing for teaching, going to gym at 11AM, reading papers from 1PM, attending weekly seminar at 3PM, etc). This can be crucial to get someone out of the state of depression.



    3) Does he have potential plans after the PhD (with or without the degree)?



    If the answers are No, I would suggest taking some concrete steps now (switch to a new advisor, form a daily life routine, consider a Plan $B$ or even Plan $Z$ in case academia does not work for him).



    In case he still love doing research, I would encourage him/her talk to some mathematican in industry but still actively doing research to have a better sense how to achieve this. If I recall correctly, Yakov Eliashberg, Vladmir Berkovich and
    Jeffrey Lagarias all worked at industry at some point, not to mention street names like Yitang Zhang.






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      I do have something to share. I would ask the following:



      1) Is he getting well with his advisor?



      2) Does he have a daily routine (i.e wake up at 8AM everyday, preparing for teaching, going to gym at 11AM, reading papers from 1PM, attending weekly seminar at 3PM, etc). This can be crucial to get someone out of the state of depression.



      3) Does he have potential plans after the PhD (with or without the degree)?



      If the answers are No, I would suggest taking some concrete steps now (switch to a new advisor, form a daily life routine, consider a Plan $B$ or even Plan $Z$ in case academia does not work for him).



      In case he still love doing research, I would encourage him/her talk to some mathematican in industry but still actively doing research to have a better sense how to achieve this. If I recall correctly, Yakov Eliashberg, Vladmir Berkovich and
      Jeffrey Lagarias all worked at industry at some point, not to mention street names like Yitang Zhang.






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        I do have something to share. I would ask the following:



        1) Is he getting well with his advisor?



        2) Does he have a daily routine (i.e wake up at 8AM everyday, preparing for teaching, going to gym at 11AM, reading papers from 1PM, attending weekly seminar at 3PM, etc). This can be crucial to get someone out of the state of depression.



        3) Does he have potential plans after the PhD (with or without the degree)?



        If the answers are No, I would suggest taking some concrete steps now (switch to a new advisor, form a daily life routine, consider a Plan $B$ or even Plan $Z$ in case academia does not work for him).



        In case he still love doing research, I would encourage him/her talk to some mathematican in industry but still actively doing research to have a better sense how to achieve this. If I recall correctly, Yakov Eliashberg, Vladmir Berkovich and
        Jeffrey Lagarias all worked at industry at some point, not to mention street names like Yitang Zhang.






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        I do have something to share. I would ask the following:



        1) Is he getting well with his advisor?



        2) Does he have a daily routine (i.e wake up at 8AM everyday, preparing for teaching, going to gym at 11AM, reading papers from 1PM, attending weekly seminar at 3PM, etc). This can be crucial to get someone out of the state of depression.



        3) Does he have potential plans after the PhD (with or without the degree)?



        If the answers are No, I would suggest taking some concrete steps now (switch to a new advisor, form a daily life routine, consider a Plan $B$ or even Plan $Z$ in case academia does not work for him).



        In case he still love doing research, I would encourage him/her talk to some mathematican in industry but still actively doing research to have a better sense how to achieve this. If I recall correctly, Yakov Eliashberg, Vladmir Berkovich and
        Jeffrey Lagarias all worked at industry at some point, not to mention street names like Yitang Zhang.







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