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I was solving an astronomy problem which said that "south of due west".
This could be interpreted in two different ways and I don't know which one is correct. Is 'south of' on that phrase idiom? Or that's means southwest?

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  Yes, it means "southwest". Just a bit to the south from the westerly direction.
  
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  Well, it could be "West SouthWest" or "SouthWest" or "South SouthWest" as these are points on the compass, or it could be 269 degrees...
  
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I was solving an astronomy problem which said that "south of due west".
This could be interpreted in two different ways and I don't know which one is correct. Is 'south of' on that phrase idiom? Or that's means southwest?

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  Yes, it means "southwest". Just a bit to the south from the westerly direction.
  
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  Well, it could be "West SouthWest" or "SouthWest" or "South SouthWest" as these are points on the compass, or it could be 269 degrees...
  
  – Solar Mike
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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This could be interpreted in two different ways and I don't know which one is correct. Is 'south of' on that phrase idiom? Or that's means southwest?

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Look at a compass rose.

Look at W for west. Now move 'southwards' (due south), which is anticlockwise¹ in this case, from the point for west. Somewhere in that region is "due south of west". You would expect it to be no nearer south than it is to west, as that would be "due west of south". Conventions vary, but I would tend to interpret "due south of west" WSW, or west-south-west, which is actually due west of south west. It might mean south-west, of course, or if you use a traditional mariner's compass (the compass rose of which has another degree of subdivision, for a total of 32 points), it might mean "west by south" (WbS), the point between W and WSW. Unless you have a clear idea of what the conventions of the text are, it could be any point anticlockwise of west and not anticlockwise of south-west.

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¹: In this case it is anticlockwise; 'southwards' from east would be clockwise.

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  There are more than 32 divisions on a compass...
  
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  @SolarMike: I meant the traditional compass rose configurations; have clarified.
  
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  Don't mariners also use "points" ? ie 3 points South of due West... Unless I read some seriously bad books...
  
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  Yes. Those 32 divisions are the "points". 3 points south of due west would be south-west by south. They later added half-points, so you could say "half a point west of south-west", and eventually quarter-points, giving 128 directions on the compass. I don't know if they've switched to using degrees nowadays; I know less about modern sailing than 19th century and earlier sailing.
  
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  You may find figure 39 in this link illuminating, perhaps the whole thing... : zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/…
  
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Look at a compass rose.

Look at W for west. Now move 'southwards' (due south), which is anticlockwise¹ in this case, from the point for west. Somewhere in that region is "due south of west". You would expect it to be no nearer south than it is to west, as that would be "due west of south". Conventions vary, but I would tend to interpret "due south of west" WSW, or west-south-west, which is actually due west of south west. It might mean south-west, of course, or if you use a traditional mariner's compass (the compass rose of which has another degree of subdivision, for a total of 32 points), it might mean "west by south" (WbS), the point between W and WSW. Unless you have a clear idea of what the conventions of the text are, it could be any point anticlockwise of west and not anticlockwise of south-west.

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¹: In this case it is anticlockwise; 'southwards' from east would be clockwise.

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  There are more than 32 divisions on a compass...
  
  – Solar Mike
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @SolarMike: I meant the traditional compass rose configurations; have clarified.
  
  – SamBC
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Don't mariners also use "points" ? ie 3 points South of due West... Unless I read some seriously bad books...
  
  – Solar Mike
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Yes. Those 32 divisions are the "points". 3 points south of due west would be south-west by south. They later added half-points, so you could say "half a point west of south-west", and eventually quarter-points, giving 128 directions on the compass. I don't know if they've switched to using degrees nowadays; I know less about modern sailing than 19th century and earlier sailing.
  
  – SamBC
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  You may find figure 39 in this link illuminating, perhaps the whole thing... : zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/…
  
  – Solar Mike
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
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Look at a compass rose.

Look at W for west. Now move 'southwards' (due south), which is anticlockwise¹ in this case, from the point for west. Somewhere in that region is "due south of west". You would expect it to be no nearer south than it is to west, as that would be "due west of south". Conventions vary, but I would tend to interpret "due south of west" WSW, or west-south-west, which is actually due west of south west. It might mean south-west, of course, or if you use a traditional mariner's compass (the compass rose of which has another degree of subdivision, for a total of 32 points), it might mean "west by south" (WbS), the point between W and WSW. Unless you have a clear idea of what the conventions of the text are, it could be any point anticlockwise of west and not anticlockwise of south-west.

---

¹: In this case it is anticlockwise; 'southwards' from east would be clockwise.

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• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  There are more than 32 divisions on a compass...
  
  – Solar Mike
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @SolarMike: I meant the traditional compass rose configurations; have clarified.
  
  – SamBC
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Don't mariners also use "points" ? ie 3 points South of due West... Unless I read some seriously bad books...
  
  – Solar Mike
  2 hours ago
  
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Yes. Those 32 divisions are the "points". 3 points south of due west would be south-west by south. They later added half-points, so you could say "half a point west of south-west", and eventually quarter-points, giving 128 directions on the compass. I don't know if they've switched to using degrees nowadays; I know less about modern sailing than 19th century and earlier sailing.
  
  – SamBC
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  You may find figure 39 in this link illuminating, perhaps the whole thing... : zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/…
  
  – Solar Mike
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

 | 
show 3 more comments

Look at a compass rose.

Look at W for west. Now move 'southwards' (due south), which is anticlockwise¹ in this case, from the point for west. Somewhere in that region is "due south of west". You would expect it to be no nearer south than it is to west, as that would be "due west of south". Conventions vary, but I would tend to interpret "due south of west" WSW, or west-south-west, which is actually due west of south west. It might mean south-west, of course, or if you use a traditional mariner's compass (the compass rose of which has another degree of subdivision, for a total of 32 points), it might mean "west by south" (WbS), the point between W and WSW. Unless you have a clear idea of what the conventions of the text are, it could be any point anticlockwise of west and not anticlockwise of south-west.

---

¹: In this case it is anticlockwise; 'southwards' from east would be clockwise.

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