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I really like the Kona Sutra from both price and specification point of views. As I have only ridden flat bar bicycles I am not sure if I can used to the drop bar. In case I cannot, I would like to convert the bicycle to Velo Orange's Crazy Bar. I know for sure, I will like that.

My question is that what do I have to know when I purchase a Kona Sutra? I know that drop bar bike frames are shorter and that I need be careful about the breake and shifter pull ratios (i.e. MTB vs Road bike components). The second is not a problem in case of the Sutra, but I am a little bit afraid of purchasing a bigger size bike just because of a potential conversion.

Is there anything else you need to watch for?

conversion touring-bikes drop-bar

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  Why wouldn't you be able to use the drop bar? That seems like something to worry about before buying an expensive drop-bar bicycle.
  
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  @AndrewHenle As I said I have never used one, and I think that it is not enough to ride on one for a few hours to know if I'll like it (to be hones I tried my friends bike and it was strange, but I have ridden flat bar bikes for 25+ years). Moreover I really like the spec of the Sutra for that price (I couldn't find any other bikes in that price range with more or less the same spec and with flat bars). It can be a good experiment too. I can give drop bars a try, but I don't need to sell/buy bicycles if I don't like them.
  
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  @GaborMeszaros Sorry but it's a silly experiment unless you have £1400 to burn. Also, honestly, the specs of the Sutra don't look all that hot, to me. The mix of Alivio and Deore is fairly low-end componentry; there are plenty of bikes that have bosses for mudguards and racks and those things aren't expensive to buy as accessories.
  
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  @GaborMeszaros, so you are saying that the Sutra is a good deal for the specs it has - but you are then going to drop significant money buying a bar, new shifters, new brakes levers and getting it all installed? That's not a good deal anymore!
  
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I really like the Kona Sutra from both price and specification point of views. As I have only ridden flat bar bicycles I am not sure if I can used to the drop bar. In case I cannot, I would like to convert the bicycle to Velo Orange's Crazy Bar. I know for sure, I will like that.

My question is that what do I have to know when I purchase a Kona Sutra? I know that drop bar bike frames are shorter and that I need be careful about the breake and shifter pull ratios (i.e. MTB vs Road bike components). The second is not a problem in case of the Sutra, but I am a little bit afraid of purchasing a bigger size bike just because of a potential conversion.

Is there anything else you need to watch for?

conversion touring-bikes drop-bar

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

Gabor MeszarosGabor Meszaros

23427

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  Why wouldn't you be able to use the drop bar? That seems like something to worry about before buying an expensive drop-bar bicycle.
  
  – Andrew Henle
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @AndrewHenle As I said I have never used one, and I think that it is not enough to ride on one for a few hours to know if I'll like it (to be hones I tried my friends bike and it was strange, but I have ridden flat bar bikes for 25+ years). Moreover I really like the spec of the Sutra for that price (I couldn't find any other bikes in that price range with more or less the same spec and with flat bars). It can be a good experiment too. I can give drop bars a try, but I don't need to sell/buy bicycles if I don't like them.
  
  – Gabor Meszaros
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @GaborMeszaros Sorry but it's a silly experiment unless you have £1400 to burn. Also, honestly, the specs of the Sutra don't look all that hot, to me. The mix of Alivio and Deore is fairly low-end componentry; there are plenty of bikes that have bosses for mudguards and racks and those things aren't expensive to buy as accessories.
  
  – David Richerby
  49 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @GaborMeszaros, so you are saying that the Sutra is a good deal for the specs it has - but you are then going to drop significant money buying a bar, new shifters, new brakes levers and getting it all installed? That's not a good deal anymore!
  
  – Argenti Apparatus
  38 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I really like the Kona Sutra from both price and specification point of views. As I have only ridden flat bar bicycles I am not sure if I can used to the drop bar. In case I cannot, I would like to convert the bicycle to Velo Orange's Crazy Bar. I know for sure, I will like that.

My question is that what do I have to know when I purchase a Kona Sutra? I know that drop bar bike frames are shorter and that I need be careful about the breake and shifter pull ratios (i.e. MTB vs Road bike components). The second is not a problem in case of the Sutra, but I am a little bit afraid of purchasing a bigger size bike just because of a potential conversion.

Is there anything else you need to watch for?

conversion touring-bikes drop-bar

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

Gabor MeszarosGabor Meszaros

23427

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

Gabor MeszarosGabor Meszaros

23427

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

Gabor MeszarosGabor Meszaros

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asked 1 hour ago

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asked 1 hour ago

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Converting between drop and flat bars is generally a huge amount of hassle. As you say, there are all kinds of incompatibility issues around brakes and shifters, and the geometry of the frame is designed with particular bars in mind, because changing the bars makes a big difference to riding position. There's no point spending £1400 on a bike and then spending a couple of hundred more to turn it into some weird Frankenbike that will ride worse than a hybrid costing a quarter of the price.

I wouldn't advise spending anything like that much money on a bike that you're not sure you'll be able to ride comfortably. Decathlon will sell you an entry-level road bike for £250; Halfords will sell you one for £180. You can probably get an old, second-hand one for £50 – and then sell it again for the same price. Even if you get an old bike with down-tube shifters, you can still evaluate the riding position. Or hire a bike for a weekend or a week. Do you know somebody who can lend you one?

Once you know what you want, you can consider more expensive options.

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  You can probably get an old, second-hand one for £50 That is probably the best way to go - maybe even spend a bit more and get a really nice used bicycle.
  
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This is just a generally bad idea. There are plenty of flat bar bikes with similar specs (700c wheels, 40mm tires, disc brakes, 9 speed mountain drivetrain) available. Swapping out the bars shifters and brake levers is expensive, time consuming, you have to work out the compatibility problems - and you don't know if you'll even like the end result. It's a much better idea to test ride bikes that you think you might like, then when you purchase you know what you are getting.

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Converting between drop and flat bars is generally a huge amount of hassle. As you say, there are all kinds of incompatibility issues around brakes and shifters, and the geometry of the frame is designed with particular bars in mind, because changing the bars makes a big difference to riding position. There's no point spending £1400 on a bike and then spending a couple of hundred more to turn it into some weird Frankenbike that will ride worse than a hybrid costing a quarter of the price.

I wouldn't advise spending anything like that much money on a bike that you're not sure you'll be able to ride comfortably. Decathlon will sell you an entry-level road bike for £250; Halfords will sell you one for £180. You can probably get an old, second-hand one for £50 – and then sell it again for the same price. Even if you get an old bike with down-tube shifters, you can still evaluate the riding position. Or hire a bike for a weekend or a week. Do you know somebody who can lend you one?

Once you know what you want, you can consider more expensive options.

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answered 1 hour ago

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  You can probably get an old, second-hand one for £50 That is probably the best way to go - maybe even spend a bit more and get a really nice used bicycle.
  
  – Andrew Henle
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

3

Converting between drop and flat bars is generally a huge amount of hassle. As you say, there are all kinds of incompatibility issues around brakes and shifters, and the geometry of the frame is designed with particular bars in mind, because changing the bars makes a big difference to riding position. There's no point spending £1400 on a bike and then spending a couple of hundred more to turn it into some weird Frankenbike that will ride worse than a hybrid costing a quarter of the price.

I wouldn't advise spending anything like that much money on a bike that you're not sure you'll be able to ride comfortably. Decathlon will sell you an entry-level road bike for £250; Halfords will sell you one for £180. You can probably get an old, second-hand one for £50 – and then sell it again for the same price. Even if you get an old bike with down-tube shifters, you can still evaluate the riding position. Or hire a bike for a weekend or a week. Do you know somebody who can lend you one?

Once you know what you want, you can consider more expensive options.

share|improve this answer

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  You can probably get an old, second-hand one for £50 That is probably the best way to go - maybe even spend a bit more and get a really nice used bicycle.
  
  – Andrew Henle
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

Converting between drop and flat bars is generally a huge amount of hassle. As you say, there are all kinds of incompatibility issues around brakes and shifters, and the geometry of the frame is designed with particular bars in mind, because changing the bars makes a big difference to riding position. There's no point spending £1400 on a bike and then spending a couple of hundred more to turn it into some weird Frankenbike that will ride worse than a hybrid costing a quarter of the price.

I wouldn't advise spending anything like that much money on a bike that you're not sure you'll be able to ride comfortably. Decathlon will sell you an entry-level road bike for £250; Halfords will sell you one for £180. You can probably get an old, second-hand one for £50 – and then sell it again for the same price. Even if you get an old bike with down-tube shifters, you can still evaluate the riding position. Or hire a bike for a weekend or a week. Do you know somebody who can lend you one?

Once you know what you want, you can consider more expensive options.

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answered 1 hour ago

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This is just a generally bad idea. There are plenty of flat bar bikes with similar specs (700c wheels, 40mm tires, disc brakes, 9 speed mountain drivetrain) available. Swapping out the bars shifters and brake levers is expensive, time consuming, you have to work out the compatibility problems - and you don't know if you'll even like the end result. It's a much better idea to test ride bikes that you think you might like, then when you purchase you know what you are getting.

share|improve this answer

answered 51 mins ago

Argenti ApparatusArgenti Apparatus

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add a comment | 

1

This is just a generally bad idea. There are plenty of flat bar bikes with similar specs (700c wheels, 40mm tires, disc brakes, 9 speed mountain drivetrain) available. Swapping out the bars shifters and brake levers is expensive, time consuming, you have to work out the compatibility problems - and you don't know if you'll even like the end result. It's a much better idea to test ride bikes that you think you might like, then when you purchase you know what you are getting.

share|improve this answer

answered 51 mins ago

Argenti ApparatusArgenti Apparatus

35.1k23789

add a comment | 

This is just a generally bad idea. There are plenty of flat bar bikes with similar specs (700c wheels, 40mm tires, disc brakes, 9 speed mountain drivetrain) available. Swapping out the bars shifters and brake levers is expensive, time consuming, you have to work out the compatibility problems - and you don't know if you'll even like the end result. It's a much better idea to test ride bikes that you think you might like, then when you purchase you know what you are getting.

share|improve this answer

answered 51 mins ago

Argenti ApparatusArgenti Apparatus

35.1k23789

share|improve this answer

answered 51 mins ago

Argenti ApparatusArgenti Apparatus

35.1k23789

answered 51 mins ago

Argenti ApparatusArgenti Apparatus

35.1k23789

answered 51 mins ago

Argenti ApparatusArgenti Apparatus

35.1k23789