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What sort of grammatical construct is ‘Quod per sortem sternit fortem’?
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In the poem ‘O Fortuna’ (anon., 13th c., but made famous by Carl Orff’s setting), there is this verse:
Quod per sortem
sternit fortem
mecum omnes plangite!
This is typically translated as ‘since luck strikes down the strong, everyone, weep with me!’ or something to that effect. I am confused about the use of ‘per sortem’ (prep.+acc.) for what seems to be the subject of the quod-clause. At first I thought it was some form of passive voice, but sternit is conjugated in the active.
I cannot seem to find any other examples of this usage of quod per. Is it even grammatical?
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In the poem ‘O Fortuna’ (anon., 13th c., but made famous by Carl Orff’s setting), there is this verse:
Quod per sortem
sternit fortem
mecum omnes plangite!
This is typically translated as ‘since luck strikes down the strong, everyone, weep with me!’ or something to that effect. I am confused about the use of ‘per sortem’ (prep.+acc.) for what seems to be the subject of the quod-clause. At first I thought it was some form of passive voice, but sternit is conjugated in the active.
I cannot seem to find any other examples of this usage of quod per. Is it even grammatical?
medieval-latin grammar-identification
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In the poem ‘O Fortuna’ (anon., 13th c., but made famous by Carl Orff’s setting), there is this verse:
Quod per sortem
sternit fortem
mecum omnes plangite!
This is typically translated as ‘since luck strikes down the strong, everyone, weep with me!’ or something to that effect. I am confused about the use of ‘per sortem’ (prep.+acc.) for what seems to be the subject of the quod-clause. At first I thought it was some form of passive voice, but sternit is conjugated in the active.
I cannot seem to find any other examples of this usage of quod per. Is it even grammatical?
medieval-latin grammar-identification
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In the poem ‘O Fortuna’ (anon., 13th c., but made famous by Carl Orff’s setting), there is this verse:
Quod per sortem
sternit fortem
mecum omnes plangite!
This is typically translated as ‘since luck strikes down the strong, everyone, weep with me!’ or something to that effect. I am confused about the use of ‘per sortem’ (prep.+acc.) for what seems to be the subject of the quod-clause. At first I thought it was some form of passive voice, but sternit is conjugated in the active.
I cannot seem to find any other examples of this usage of quod per. Is it even grammatical?
medieval-latin grammar-identification
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The subject of sternit must be an unexpressed "he", perhaps meaning "God". "Since, through the workings of fate, he lays low the strong, weep with me all of you."
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Thanks! I would assume that ‘He’ (God) is indeed the subject. Somehow all of the English translations I've seen (verse or prose) manage to miss this, and treat ‘fortune’ as the subject.
– Brent Bessemer
46 mins ago
@BrentBessemer, fdb, O Fortuna is not a religious work. I guess the elided subject could be Fortuna herself
– Rafael
39 mins ago
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@Rafael. That is possible, of course, though I do not quite understand the difference between "fortuna" and "sors" in this context.
– fdb
29 mins ago
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The subject of sternit must be an unexpressed "he", perhaps meaning "God". "Since, through the workings of fate, he lays low the strong, weep with me all of you."
answered 1 hour ago
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Thanks! I would assume that ‘He’ (God) is indeed the subject. Somehow all of the English translations I've seen (verse or prose) manage to miss this, and treat ‘fortune’ as the subject.
– Brent Bessemer
46 mins ago
@BrentBessemer, fdb, O Fortuna is not a religious work. I guess the elided subject could be Fortuna herself
– Rafael
39 mins ago
1
@Rafael. That is possible, of course, though I do not quite understand the difference between "fortuna" and "sors" in this context.
– fdb
29 mins ago
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The subject of sternit must be an unexpressed "he", perhaps meaning "God". "Since, through the workings of fate, he lays low the strong, weep with me all of you."
answered 1 hour ago
fdbfdb
10.9k11128
Thanks! I would assume that ‘He’ (God) is indeed the subject. Somehow all of the English translations I've seen (verse or prose) manage to miss this, and treat ‘fortune’ as the subject.
– Brent Bessemer
46 mins ago
@BrentBessemer, fdb, O Fortuna is not a religious work. I guess the elided subject could be Fortuna herself
– Rafael
39 mins ago
1
@Rafael. That is possible, of course, though I do not quite understand the difference between "fortuna" and "sors" in this context.
– fdb
29 mins ago
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The subject of sternit must be an unexpressed "he", perhaps meaning "God". "Since, through the workings of fate, he lays low the strong, weep with me all of you."
answered 1 hour ago
fdbfdb
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The subject of sternit must be an unexpressed "he", perhaps meaning "God". "Since, through the workings of fate, he lays low the strong, weep with me all of you."
answered 1 hour ago
fdbfdb
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answered 1 hour ago
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answered 1 hour ago
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Thanks! I would assume that ‘He’ (God) is indeed the subject. Somehow all of the English translations I've seen (verse or prose) manage to miss this, and treat ‘fortune’ as the subject.
– Brent Bessemer
46 mins ago
@BrentBessemer, fdb, O Fortuna is not a religious work. I guess the elided subject could be Fortuna herself
– Rafael
39 mins ago
1
@Rafael. That is possible, of course, though I do not quite understand the difference between "fortuna" and "sors" in this context.
– fdb
29 mins ago
add a comment |
Thanks! I would assume that ‘He’ (God) is indeed the subject. Somehow all of the English translations I've seen (verse or prose) manage to miss this, and treat ‘fortune’ as the subject.
– Brent Bessemer
46 mins ago
@BrentBessemer, fdb, O Fortuna is not a religious work. I guess the elided subject could be Fortuna herself
– Rafael
39 mins ago
1
@Rafael. That is possible, of course, though I do not quite understand the difference between "fortuna" and "sors" in this context.
– fdb
29 mins ago
Thanks! I would assume that ‘He’ (God) is indeed the subject. Somehow all of the English translations I've seen (verse or prose) manage to miss this, and treat ‘fortune’ as the subject.
– Brent Bessemer
46 mins ago
Thanks! I would assume that ‘He’ (God) is indeed the subject. Somehow all of the English translations I've seen (verse or prose) manage to miss this, and treat ‘fortune’ as the subject.
– Brent Bessemer
46 mins ago
@BrentBessemer, fdb, O Fortuna is not a religious work. I guess the elided subject could be Fortuna herself
– Rafael
39 mins ago
@BrentBessemer, fdb, O Fortuna is not a religious work. I guess the elided subject could be Fortuna herself
– Rafael
39 mins ago
1
1
@Rafael. That is possible, of course, though I do not quite understand the difference between "fortuna" and "sors" in this context.
– fdb
29 mins ago
@Rafael. That is possible, of course, though I do not quite understand the difference between "fortuna" and "sors" in this context.
– fdb
29 mins ago
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