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I gave an enemy three beads of force, one of which was used against the PCs, two of which they now have.
The item says:
You can use an action to throw the bead up to 60 feet.
Is an attack roll necessary to accurately throw the bead where the thrower desires?
Generally we play on a grid, although not always, if that makes any difference.
I mention that the object being thrown is a bead of force, although I assume the same rules would apply to throwing a bead or anything else.
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I gave an enemy three beads of force, one of which was used against the PCs, two of which they now have.
The item says:
You can use an action to throw the bead up to 60 feet.
Is an attack roll necessary to accurately throw the bead where the thrower desires?
Generally we play on a grid, although not always, if that makes any difference.
I mention that the object being thrown is a bead of force, although I assume the same rules would apply to throwing a bead or anything else.
dnd-5e magic-items attack-roll
edited 3 hours ago
SevenSidedDie♦
207k31665942
asked 4 hours ago
JackJack
10.1k43895
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Related: How many attack rolls do I need to make for an area attack?
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I gave an enemy three beads of force, one of which was used against the PCs, two of which they now have.
The item says:
You can use an action to throw the bead up to 60 feet.
Is an attack roll necessary to accurately throw the bead where the thrower desires?
Generally we play on a grid, although not always, if that makes any difference.
I mention that the object being thrown is a bead of force, although I assume the same rules would apply to throwing a bead or anything else.
dnd-5e magic-items attack-roll
edited 3 hours ago
SevenSidedDie♦
207k31665942
asked 4 hours ago
JackJack
10.1k43895
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I gave an enemy three beads of force, one of which was used against the PCs, two of which they now have.
The item says:
You can use an action to throw the bead up to 60 feet.
Is an attack roll necessary to accurately throw the bead where the thrower desires?
Generally we play on a grid, although not always, if that makes any difference.
I mention that the object being thrown is a bead of force, although I assume the same rules would apply to throwing a bead or anything else.
dnd-5e magic-items attack-roll
dnd-5e magic-items attack-roll
edited 3 hours ago
SevenSidedDie♦
207k31665942
asked 4 hours ago
JackJack
10.1k43895
edited 3 hours ago
SevenSidedDie♦
207k31665942
asked 4 hours ago
JackJack
10.1k43895
edited 3 hours ago
SevenSidedDie♦
207k31665942
edited 3 hours ago
SevenSidedDie♦
207k31665942
edited 3 hours ago
SevenSidedDie♦
207k31665942
207k31665942
asked 4 hours ago
JackJack
10.1k43895
asked 4 hours ago
JackJack
10.1k43895
asked 4 hours ago
JackJack
10.1k43895
10.1k43895
2
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Related: How many attack rolls do I need to make for an area attack?
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No roll is needed
If an attack roll was required, the object's description would say so. There are no secret rules in DnD 5e.
Attack rolls are generally intended to check whether you hit a target that's either a creature or, much more rarely, an object. The targets are usually protected in some manner: a creature can be wearing armor of have a natural shell that's difficult to pierce, and most beings are interested in their survival enough to attempt to parry or dodge incoming blows and thrown weapons. Objects don't, but they typically lack critical weaknesses like organs that cause the whole thing to fail when damaged. Missed attacks also include glancing blows that technically touch the target but don't do any real damage.
Here, you're essentially trying to throw a bead into a particular 5×5 square - a much easier feat than hitting a creature, since the square can't parry or dodge the bead. As a GM, even if I wanted to houserule it, I wouldn't consider making it an attack roll because it defies the usual conventions of attacks --- there's no AC to hit, no damage roll to make --- but if the circumstances were particularly tricky (eg. an enemy is chewing on the throwing character's face at the time) I would instead make it a Dexterity check.
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It might be worth noting that the chance of doing damage to a creature in the area of the explosion is already simulated by the fact that a bead of force calls for a Dex save from those in a 10-foot radius from where the bead landed. Very few things in the game call for both an attack roll and a saving throw to do damage; when they do, it's usually for different kinds/amounts of damage (as with ice knife).
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No roll is needed
If an attack roll was required, the object's description would say so. There are no secret rules in DnD 5e.
Attack rolls are generally intended to check whether you hit a target that's either a creature or, much more rarely, an object. The targets are usually protected in some manner: a creature can be wearing armor of have a natural shell that's difficult to pierce, and most beings are interested in their survival enough to attempt to parry or dodge incoming blows and thrown weapons. Objects don't, but they typically lack critical weaknesses like organs that cause the whole thing to fail when damaged. Missed attacks also include glancing blows that technically touch the target but don't do any real damage.
Here, you're essentially trying to throw a bead into a particular 5×5 square - a much easier feat than hitting a creature, since the square can't parry or dodge the bead. As a GM, even if I wanted to houserule it, I wouldn't consider making it an attack roll because it defies the usual conventions of attacks --- there's no AC to hit, no damage roll to make --- but if the circumstances were particularly tricky (eg. an enemy is chewing on the throwing character's face at the time) I would instead make it a Dexterity check.
answered 4 hours ago
kviirikviiri
36.3k10135208
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$begingroup$
It might be worth noting that the chance of doing damage to a creature in the area of the explosion is already simulated by the fact that a bead of force calls for a Dex save from those in a 10-foot radius from where the bead landed. Very few things in the game call for both an attack roll and a saving throw to do damage; when they do, it's usually for different kinds/amounts of damage (as with ice knife).
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
27 mins ago
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$begingroup$
No roll is needed
If an attack roll was required, the object's description would say so. There are no secret rules in DnD 5e.
Attack rolls are generally intended to check whether you hit a target that's either a creature or, much more rarely, an object. The targets are usually protected in some manner: a creature can be wearing armor of have a natural shell that's difficult to pierce, and most beings are interested in their survival enough to attempt to parry or dodge incoming blows and thrown weapons. Objects don't, but they typically lack critical weaknesses like organs that cause the whole thing to fail when damaged. Missed attacks also include glancing blows that technically touch the target but don't do any real damage.
Here, you're essentially trying to throw a bead into a particular 5×5 square - a much easier feat than hitting a creature, since the square can't parry or dodge the bead. As a GM, even if I wanted to houserule it, I wouldn't consider making it an attack roll because it defies the usual conventions of attacks --- there's no AC to hit, no damage roll to make --- but if the circumstances were particularly tricky (eg. an enemy is chewing on the throwing character's face at the time) I would instead make it a Dexterity check.
answered 4 hours ago
kviirikviiri
36.3k10135208
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
It might be worth noting that the chance of doing damage to a creature in the area of the explosion is already simulated by the fact that a bead of force calls for a Dex save from those in a 10-foot radius from where the bead landed. Very few things in the game call for both an attack roll and a saving throw to do damage; when they do, it's usually for different kinds/amounts of damage (as with ice knife).
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– V2Blast
27 mins ago
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$begingroup$
No roll is needed
If an attack roll was required, the object's description would say so. There are no secret rules in DnD 5e.
Attack rolls are generally intended to check whether you hit a target that's either a creature or, much more rarely, an object. The targets are usually protected in some manner: a creature can be wearing armor of have a natural shell that's difficult to pierce, and most beings are interested in their survival enough to attempt to parry or dodge incoming blows and thrown weapons. Objects don't, but they typically lack critical weaknesses like organs that cause the whole thing to fail when damaged. Missed attacks also include glancing blows that technically touch the target but don't do any real damage.
Here, you're essentially trying to throw a bead into a particular 5×5 square - a much easier feat than hitting a creature, since the square can't parry or dodge the bead. As a GM, even if I wanted to houserule it, I wouldn't consider making it an attack roll because it defies the usual conventions of attacks --- there's no AC to hit, no damage roll to make --- but if the circumstances were particularly tricky (eg. an enemy is chewing on the throwing character's face at the time) I would instead make it a Dexterity check.
answered 4 hours ago
kviirikviiri
36.3k10135208
$endgroup$
No roll is needed
If an attack roll was required, the object's description would say so. There are no secret rules in DnD 5e.
Attack rolls are generally intended to check whether you hit a target that's either a creature or, much more rarely, an object. The targets are usually protected in some manner: a creature can be wearing armor of have a natural shell that's difficult to pierce, and most beings are interested in their survival enough to attempt to parry or dodge incoming blows and thrown weapons. Objects don't, but they typically lack critical weaknesses like organs that cause the whole thing to fail when damaged. Missed attacks also include glancing blows that technically touch the target but don't do any real damage.
Here, you're essentially trying to throw a bead into a particular 5×5 square - a much easier feat than hitting a creature, since the square can't parry or dodge the bead. As a GM, even if I wanted to houserule it, I wouldn't consider making it an attack roll because it defies the usual conventions of attacks --- there's no AC to hit, no damage roll to make --- but if the circumstances were particularly tricky (eg. an enemy is chewing on the throwing character's face at the time) I would instead make it a Dexterity check.
answered 4 hours ago
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edited 4 hours ago
answered 4 hours ago
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36.3k10135208
answered 4 hours ago
kviirikviiri
36.3k10135208
answered 4 hours ago
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It might be worth noting that the chance of doing damage to a creature in the area of the explosion is already simulated by the fact that a bead of force calls for a Dex save from those in a 10-foot radius from where the bead landed. Very few things in the game call for both an attack roll and a saving throw to do damage; when they do, it's usually for different kinds/amounts of damage (as with ice knife).
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
27 mins ago
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$begingroup$
It might be worth noting that the chance of doing damage to a creature in the area of the explosion is already simulated by the fact that a bead of force calls for a Dex save from those in a 10-foot radius from where the bead landed. Very few things in the game call for both an attack roll and a saving throw to do damage; when they do, it's usually for different kinds/amounts of damage (as with ice knife).
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
27 mins ago
$begingroup$
It might be worth noting that the chance of doing damage to a creature in the area of the explosion is already simulated by the fact that a bead of force calls for a Dex save from those in a 10-foot radius from where the bead landed. Very few things in the game call for both an attack roll and a saving throw to do damage; when they do, it's usually for different kinds/amounts of damage (as with ice knife).
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
27 mins ago
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It might be worth noting that the chance of doing damage to a creature in the area of the explosion is already simulated by the fact that a bead of force calls for a Dex save from those in a 10-foot radius from where the bead landed. Very few things in the game call for both an attack roll and a saving throw to do damage; when they do, it's usually for different kinds/amounts of damage (as with ice knife).
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– V2Blast
27 mins ago
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